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In New York State, the annual common core tests have 3 days (7+ hours) for English, another 3 days (7+ hours) for math. That is only for 3rd grade. As grades get higher, testing time get longer. It's totally insane. For elementary schools, 90 mins for each subject are more than enough. Do we have to walk 3 hours nonstop to proof we can walk?
We need well designed exams, appropriate testing. Stop using our children as guinea pigs for field test.
The Obama administration has helped perpetuate the testing explosion. To criticize it now with vague guidelines seems more motivated by politics than what's good for education.
The Obama administration has helped perpetuate the testing explosion. To criticize it now with vague guidelines seems more motivated by politics than what's good for education.
The excessive testing started under Bush, but it's gotten much worse under Obama. He and Arne Duncan are to blame, it's just too bad they didn't figure it out and do something about it sooner.
The excessive testing started under Bush, but it's gotten much worse under Obama. He and Arne Duncan are to blame, it's just too bad they didn't figure it out and do something about it sooner.
In some states it started well before Bush and NCLB. Maryland, for one, started graduation testing in the 1980s with what were then called Functional Tests in English, Government, Algebra and Biology. Those transitioned to High School Assessments which are now being replaced by PAARC tests.
New York has had the Regents Exams for decades. Just recently have more than just the top students taken them.
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The Obama administration has helped perpetuate the testing explosion. To criticize it now with vague guidelines seems more motivated by politics than what's good for education.
It has and Race To The Top doubled down on the testing imposed by NCLB.
What I believe has happened is the Administration has read the polls indicating pushback across the country, especially in swing states, and has moved to forestall what could become an election issue.
In some states it started well before Bush and NCLB. Maryland, for one, started graduation testing in the 1980s with what were then called Functional Tests in English, Government, Algebra and Biology. Those transitioned to High School Assessments which are now being replaced by PAARC tests.
New York has had the Regents Exams for decades. Just recently have more than just the top students taken them.
It has and Race To The Top doubled down on the testing imposed by NCLB.
What I believe has happened is the Administration has read the polls indicating pushback across the country, especially in swing states, and has moved to forestall what could become an election issue.
I grew up and went to school in NYC.
Those Regents tests we took in HS in order to get a Regents diploma.
One could still graduate without taking the Regents if they still passed all their classes.
Those tests back then were nothing like we have today. They were all fill in the blank and you had to turn in your papers showing your work.
And I recall that we did practice for the regents with sample tests about 2 weeks before the test.
There was no big year long constant reminder, prep sessions, etc.
I remember taking 3 Math tests and 1 French. There were probably more but I don't remember.
Today we start in 3rd grade with 2 tests.
By 8th grade they have 5 tests.
And various high schools are all over the place.
In some states it started well before Bush and NCLB. Maryland, for one, started graduation testing in the 1980s with what were then called Functional Tests in English, Government, Algebra and Biology. Those transitioned to High School Assessments which are now being replaced by PAARC tests.
New York has had the Regents Exams for decades. Just recently have more than just the top students taken them.
Right, but graduation tests are a different animal and I think that the elementary-level tests given pre-2000s were low-stakes and used more for benchmarking and student placement. The NCLB era tests were more punitive.
Sadly this is true. I guess the idea would be to eliminate the DoE altogether and not force the states send their education money to DC in the first place.
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