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Old 01-09-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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I'm considering moving out of Michigan to find a job that pays decent. Michigan does a lot of tongue wagging about a shortage of STEM teachers but reality is there will be a dozen applicants for every job and new teachers, including STEM teachers are treated as disposable. With wages frozen here I really have to find something else. So my question is are there any states that really have a STEM shortage that would negotiate a starting salary for a STEM teacher? I'm not going to move to start at step 0 again and get stuck there again. BTDT and I'm not making the same mistake twice. I figure if there really is a shortage...somewhere...they'd be willing to negotiate starting salaries. Do any of you know of any areas that will negotiate starting salaries for STEM teachers?

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Old 01-10-2016, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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I don't think my district would negotiate the salary, but they would give you credit for previous years taught. The maximum entry step is 15.
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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Mississippi has a perennial shortage of teachers. Our district has a chemistry position posted in what used to be our top-rated high school. I don't know how much credit they would give you for your years of experience.

The best thing about living in Mississippi is No Snow! (Although it will be 25 degrees tonight.)
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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The top education states are always looking for good, highly qualified STEM teachers, at least in the better districts. But no there is not a shortage of regular STEM teachers.

My district is a STEM district and we have high turn over of untenured teachers since many of our new STEM teachers don't fit the programs they were hired for very well. And yes, as a district they always negotiate salaries, I only had two years of teaching when I was hired but they hired me at step 7 because of my years of research experience. For most of the STEM positions at our school we don't get dozens of applicants, and certainly not dozens of qualified applicants.

Maybe you should do something to set yourself apart from the pack. Get nationally certified, win some national level awards or recognition, etc. Otherwise why should they treat/pay you any differently than any other teacher?
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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My district is always hiring, but they are holding a specific job fair to recruit teachers in the following critical needs areas:

Audiologist
English as a Second Language
General Ed. Grades 4-6
Immersion (Arabic, Japanese, Korean, Spanish)
Latin
Librarian
Mathematics
Occupational Therapy
Physical Therapy
Physics
Reading
School Counseling
Spanish
Special Education
Speech-language Pathologist
Technology Education

Ivory, Are you near Allendale, Ann Arbor or Ypsilanti, MI?

Edit: I sent you a PM

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Old 01-10-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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My district is always hiring, but they are holding a specific job fair to recruit teachers in the following critical needs areas:

Audiologist
English as a Second Language
General Ed. Grades 4-6
Immersion (Arabic, Japanese, Korean, Spanish)
Latin
Librarian
Mathematics
Occupational Therapy
Physical Therapy
Physics
Reading
School Counseling
Spanish
Special Education
Speech-language Pathologist
Technology Education

Ivory, Are you near Allendale, Ann Arbor or Ypsilanti, MI?

Edit: I sent you a PM
I'm think I'm in the same district. I agree it's a good job market. Also, the nearby districts. There is some negotiation possible as far as how many years credit they will give you, but it's usually that they try to give as many as possible.
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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I'm think I'm in the same district. I agree it's a good job market. Also, the nearby districts. There is some negotiation possible as far as how many years credit they will give you, but it's usually that they try to give as many as possible.
Correct. You can somewhat negotiate the step, but not the dollar amount at that step.

My wife worked in a private school for ten years. When the county hired her they started her off on step 11. They didn't have to, but they wanted her and that was even on a provisional license.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm considering moving out of Michigan to find a job that pays decent. Michigan does a lot of tongue wagging about a shortage of STEM teachers but reality is there will be a dozen applicants for every job and new teachers, including STEM teachers are treated as disposable. With wages frozen here I really have to find something else. So my question is are there any states that really have a STEM shortage that would negotiate a starting salary for a STEM teacher? I'm not going to move to start at step 0 again and get stuck there again. BTDT and I'm not making the same mistake twice. I figure if there really is a shortage...somewhere...they'd be willing to negotiate starting salaries. Do any of you know of any areas that will negotiate starting salaries for STEM teachers?
Just keep in mind WEP.

FICA jobs vs non FICA jobs and what that will do to your Social Security when you file.

I have met so many teachers and paras here in Texas that didn't know about WEP.
I have my 30 qualifying FICA years so I'm exempt from WEP.

WEP stands for Windfall Elimination Provision.
You can read up on it on the SS site.

If you have a Masters you can also consider college teaching in some states.
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Old 01-10-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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if you a stem teacher you can get a job anywhere, I over heard a prinicpal of a high last week tell someone, you a stem teacher, I will hire you monday.
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I'm considering moving out of Michigan to find a job that pays decent. Michigan does a lot of tongue wagging about a shortage of STEM teachers but reality is there will be a dozen applicants for every job and new teachers, including STEM teachers are treated as disposable. With wages frozen here I really have to find something else. So my question is are there any states that really have a STEM shortage that would negotiate a starting salary for a STEM teacher? I'm not going to move to start at step 0 again and get stuck there again. BTDT and I'm not making the same mistake twice. I figure if there really is a shortage...somewhere...they'd be willing to negotiate starting salaries. Do any of you know of any areas that will negotiate starting salaries for STEM teachers?
If you are willing to work in rural Illinois, they are having issues getting teachers.

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