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In 2013, they had 258 graduates, only 150 took the ACT. They scored 24.2, above the national average but nothing to brag about. If every graduate would've taken the test, the average most likely would be lower.
Thank you for making my point... just because it is private doesn't mean it is exclusionary, racist, etc...
Of course they do...they don't allow in kids who don't have college in their future.
You are not forced to go to college... how can one predict what someone will do 5 years down the road...
As to those that say Catholic Schools prey on fears of minority student body... you have never been to a Catholic school in Oakland California, Berkeley... etc.
Hmmm. I am also in the deep south and there are a good number of smart, respectable, well-behaved, hard working, college aspiring, kind and sweet African American children at my child's prep school. And many other ethnicities as well. Color of skin doesn't dictate standards and beliefs.
That's not what he said. He was saying that is how prospective buyers perceive things when they are searching for areas with "good schools". I see it all the time on my own state's forum. We have an area with to-die-for educations outside NYC and people still can get so competitive that they split hairs over two gold star systems. It's like debating whether Yale Medical or Johns Hopkins Medical is better.
You are not forced to go to college... how can one predict what someone will do 5 years down the road...
As to those that say Catholic Schools prey on fears of minority student body... you have never been to a Catholic school in Oakland California, Berkeley... etc.
Nope. But I've seen it enough around here. They slowly stared integrating minorities into their sports programs. Basketball especially since a good athlete on scholarship could keep your name in the paper but not cost too much money or change the racial balance. I don't deny catholic schools are more integrated now, but they are still selective and "are there" for those that fear public schools. Heck, Catholic schools may have been built on the idea of structuring education around catholicism, but it was also a segregation tactic for catholic parents who hardly associated with non-catholics in their own neighborhoods back then. It's comical to think there aren't people who chose private schools to "get away from the riff-raff".
And no you aren't force to go to college, but anyone heading to a private schools is usually planning on it. A good chunk of kids in my son's "failing" school are going to college and they weren't held back by those that aren't.
We picked an educational philosophy that is best for the way our kids learn that is not available in public for us (it is for some). The class sizes are smaller. The student teacher ratio allows for more personalization. The academics are advanced but my kids have minimal homework and minimal standardized testing.
They would be fine in public school, our public schools are excellent...but they still don't offer what we want for our kids.
Nope. But I've seen it enough around here. They slowly stared integrating minorities into their sports programs. Basketball especially since a good athlete on scholarship could keep your name in the paper but not cost too much money or change the racial balance. I don't deny catholic schools are more integrated now, but they are still selective and "are there" for those that fear public schools. Heck, Catholic schools may have been built on the idea of structuring education around catholicism, but it was also a segregation tactic for catholic parents who hardly associated with non-catholics in their own neighborhoods back then. It's comical to think there aren't people who chose private schools to "get away from the riff-raff".
And no you aren't force to go to college, but anyone heading to a private schools is usually planning on it. A good chunk of kids in my son's "failing" school are going to college and they weren't held back by those that aren't.
I don't doubt you are right based on experiences...
Growing up in Oakland I've never known different... even when Dad was in public school way back when the classrooms were integrated in Oakland... Black, Asian, Native American...
Ask thatguydownsouth. He's the one that suggested parents choose private schools simply because of the racial factor, and I pointed out that the public schools people clamor for usually aren't bastions of diversity, either...
I guess what I'm suggesting is that if we declare that parents are sending their kids to private schools simply because of the racial factor, then we should probably apply that same logic to the parents who choose the top-performing public schools, too.
(Not that I agree with either of those statements. You're right- parents should want good schools for their kids. But good schools in most cases merely means good demographics.
I totally disagree with your last sentence, and I find your implication that most who say they want good schools for their kids are looking for "good" demographics, whatever that is, totally false. Your reasoning makes no sense. Do you often run into people either here on CD or IRL who want to send their kids to bad schools, deliberately?
I would say "self discipline". Years ago the parents of my kids' classmates took their kids out of Catholic school and put them in public. A few months later at a Boy Scout meeting I said something to the Dad like, "I bet the discipline is a lot more lax" at the public school. And he said that on the contrary, it's more strict. After thinking why that would be, I realized that our Catholic school instilled the expectation that kids would behave well on their own to a certain extent, without direction or threats.
I think you're missing the point. It sounds to me like the dad was saying the public schools were stricter than the Catholic schools.
I think you're missing the point. It sounds to me like the dad was saying the public schools were stricter than the Catholic schools.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I responded to a poster who said there's more "discipline" in Catholic school. My point was that after speaking to the other Dad, I realized Catholic schools instill "self discipline" and therefore don't have to be as strict with the rules. It ain't your grandfather's Catholic school anymore, where the nuns ruled with and iron fist and a ruler across the knuckles.
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