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Old 10-21-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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On other forums, I've seen people talk about how getting a Bachelor's Degree is nothing special, and that being college educated is nothing to boast about. However, they don't seem to have looked at this website. Percentage of persons 25 to 29 years old with selected levels of educational attainment, by race/ethnicity and sex: Selected years, 1920 through 2013 According to this link, only 33.6% of people between the ages of 25 and 29 have a Bachelor's Degree as of 2013, which is pretty recent. Even among white people, the percentage is only 40.4. Now, I understand that these statistics only apply to 25-29 year olds, and not the U.S. population as a whole. Here's the thing though. The vast majority of people, particularly white people, who do get Bachelor's Degrees do as at 22 or younger. So if someone is 25 and doesn't have a Bachelor's Degree, it's safe to assume they'll never get one. So, why does someone who's more education than over 60% of the country have nothing to boast about?
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Old 10-21-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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So if someone is 25 and doesn't have a Bachelor's Degree, it's safe to assume they'll never get one.
So not true. You know what they say about assuming...

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So, why does someone who's more education than over 60% of the country have nothing to boast about?
In general, no one should be boasting about anything. No point lording it over others... very few like braggarts.


Also, there is a difference between boasting (mentioned in your post) and being proud (mentioned in your title).
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Old 10-21-2016, 08:45 PM
 
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Being proud of your accomplishments is fine. Putting down others who have different accomplishments they may be just as pround of is dumb.
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So not true. You know what they say about assuming...


In general, no one should be boasting about anything. No point lording it over others... very few like braggarts.


Also, there is a difference between boasting (mentioned in your post) and being proud (mentioned in your title).
I took that "boasting" comment with a grain of salt, as in the expression "nothing to brag about". I thought it more a figure of speech. And while there are more nontraditional students in college now than ever before, the bulk of college graduates still come from the younger students that go full time.
U.S. college dropouts rates: Explained in 4 charts.
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:57 AM
 
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On other forums, I've seen people talk about how getting a Bachelor's Degree is nothing special, and that being college educated is nothing to boast about. However, they don't seem to have looked at this website. Percentage of persons 25 to 29 years old with selected levels of educational attainment, by race/ethnicity and sex: Selected years, 1920 through 2013 According to this link, only 33.6% of people between the ages of 25 and 29 have a Bachelor's Degree as of 2013, which is pretty recent. Even among white people, the percentage is only 40.4. Now, I understand that these statistics only apply to 25-29 year olds, and not the U.S. population as a whole. Here's the thing though. The vast majority of people, particularly white people, who do get Bachelor's Degrees do as at 22 or younger. So if someone is 25 and doesn't have a Bachelor's Degree, it's safe to assume they'll never get one. So, why does someone who's more education than over 60% of the country have nothing to boast about?
Not really. Because of career changes a lot of older people do go out and get bachelors. Also in many fields a bachelor's degree is nothing. In order to be able to do anything in the humanities or social sciences you generally need an advanced degree (at least a masters and possibly a phd).
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:05 AM
 
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To the original point, it's because there is a huge anti intellectual streak running through the DNA of the country. Someone who has great football talent is to be admired. But someone who has great intellectual talent is to be put down.
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Years ago, a BA meant you were getting a 100K job out the gates. Where as if you had high school, you'd get say a 50k job. Now, a days, high school gets you a min wage job whether you finished or not. A BA gets you a 50k job maybe. That's why it's nothing special.
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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Years ago, a BA meant you were getting a 100K job out the gates. Where as if you had high school, you'd get say a 50k job. Now, a days, high school gets you a min wage job whether you finished or not. A BA gets you a 50k job maybe. That's why it's nothing special.
Oh, baloney! Not even engineers made $100K "out the gates" as you say, years ago. Not even in today's money. In fact, they don't generally start out making that much now! More like in the $60K range.
STEM Grads Projected to Earn Class of 2016

Nursing and teaching, two other jobs you can do fresh out with a bachelor's, start far lower, always have.

My brother graduated with a BA in history in the early 70s, started out in HR interviewing people for factory jobs, at nowhere near the equivalent of $100K.
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:53 PM
 
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To the original point, it's because there is a huge anti intellectual streak running through the DNA of the country. Someone who has great football talent is to be admired. But someone who has great intellectual talent is to be put down.
The anti-intellectual streak has always been here. For a good read, the book below dives deep into this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-i..._American_Life
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Oh, baloney! Not even engineers made $100K "out the gates" as you say, years ago. Not even in today's money. In fact, they don't generally start out making that much now! More like in the $60K range.
STEM Grads Projected to Earn Class of 2016

Nursing and teaching, two other jobs you can do fresh out with a bachelor's, start far lower, always have.

My brother graduated with a BA in history in the early 70s, started out in HR interviewing people for factory jobs, at nowhere near the equivalent of $100K.
History, English, Philosophy, ect have always been clunkers money wise.
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