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Old 12-12-2016, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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The more we treat school like a prison the more likely it is that kids will see school as a prison.
Litigious parents are the reason my school's campus went from open to closed.
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Old 12-13-2016, 01:12 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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When I was in HS in the late 70s, we had an "open campus" - we could leave school for luch and retur for our next period. This was for Seniors and Juniors.

It was studied and they found that there was less ditching school, cutting classes and everyone returned.
I think it destroys the cohesiveness of the high school experience. They'll never have that again.
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:04 AM
 
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Not unless we change the laws. I forget the term for it but schools are considered parents in the absence of parents and therefore responsible for anything the kids do. If we are held responsible for anything they do we need to keep them in our sight.
in loco parentis
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:14 AM
 
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I think it destroys the cohesiveness of the high school experience. They'll never have that again.
The high school experience--ugh. Thank goodness I will never have it again!

Yes, I think they should be able to leave if they want to. I was beyond my years while in high school. Although I was liked I did not care for the "high school scene". College was so much better---you can do what you want in your free time.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:32 AM
 
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never allow the inmates to run the asylum
I don't think allowing high school students some degree of independence about where to eat lunch is allowing the inmates to run the asylum. I see it as an opportunity to show responsibility. It is a chance for kids to experience some control over their own lives as well an opportunity to learn how to leave campus, eat, and return to campus on time.

Kids see high school as an undesirable place where their every move is controlled by someone else. If we want them to see themselves as members of a community we have to allow them to participate in the community at some point.

My kids go to a private school so they are not bound by school district rules. The school can set its own rules. Seniors are allowed, with parent permission, to leave campus when they do not have a class. They are also allowed to exempt from all finals as long as they have certain grades, meet attendance requirements, and do not have more than a certain number of tardies. The school uses the carrot (you can leave if you want) and stick (if you aren't back on time you lose exemptions) approach with seniors.

Part of high school is preparing kids for real life in college or on the job. It is perfectly reasonable that at some point in high school to give kids the privilege of having control over themselves along with the responsibility of getting back on time.

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Old 12-13-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The high school experience--ugh. Thank goodness I will never have it again!

Yes, I think they should be able to leave if they want to. I was beyond my years while in high school. Although I was liked I did not care for the "high school scene". College was so much better---you can do what you want in your free time.
That's because in college you're probably 18 and a supposed adult.

In tenth or eleventh grade, you're not.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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That's because in college you're probably 18 and a supposed adult.

In tenth or eleventh grade, you're not.
If you were to move an hour north, you'd find an absolutely enormous high school in Denver's southern suburbs that permits students from freshman year to senior year to exercise their autonomy and leave campus whenever they are not scheduled to be in class. And, believe it or not, the community has not collapsed into chaos. For the most part, the kids behave themselves, and the local restaurants and coffee shops thrive off of their business. Were we to close lunch, I think the biggest revolt would come from the shopping centers that surround our high school!
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Generally they go home to study, go to internships, volunteer, or go to extracurricular practices when they are not in class. Many of them volunteer at the lower and middle school.
Or go over too Mary's house and smoke weed in her garage since she lives a block away.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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No good reason for students to leave unless there are no options at all for lunch...and there are. The break is not usually long enough to go any distance at all so it only encourages kids to go out and come back late or skip out the afternoon altogether. And considering the poor quality of most available fast food, it would be wiser to bring their own lunch and save some bucks.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Our High School is bordered by a highway, a corn field and maybe a dozen houses. Lunch break is maybe 35 minutes. No way the kids, even the ones within walking distance, could get lunch off campus in that time.
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