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Old 02-28-2017, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Bay Area California
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I worked with a couple of them when I was waiting tables. Cooks. They kept making small mistakes on my tickets until I figured it out and started calling out my tickets when I hung them. Then they got everything right. White guys in their forties.

My son met some young black kids ( early twenties ) that were put through the schools, but were functionally illiterate. He said he almost cried when he figured it out. No future.

It must be incredibly stressful to live with a secret like that.
There's a TV chef who was illiterate - Curtis Aikens. I recall seeing his story on a news show. He has since learned to read and made literacy his passion. As you've said, living with that secret was something he managed in ways many of us might not even think about.
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Old 02-28-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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The new literacy is technology literacy; understanding the value of technology, and then being able to use it to communicate effectively. I have met only a very few persons who could not read. However I am finding that many today cause problems for others because they are not technologically literate. They do not understand technology to be a literacy to also master. Some seniors only use email, many do not text, some want a phone call, and others yet want information printed out for them. This is very frustrating for an organizer.
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Old 02-28-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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You really think you can't drive if you can't read? Think of all the cabbies (and otherwise) who can't read - English, at least.
You need to read to be able to pass the written test. Some places offer these tests in a variety of languages, other places do not.
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Old 02-28-2017, 10:54 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You need to read to be able to pass the written test. Some places offer these tests in a variety of languages, other places do not.
It's not a reading test. In many states one can request the test be read aloud.

We ran into that with mandated standardized tests. When it was pointed out that many students didn't have the reading skills to pass the Government test it was pointed out that it wasn't a reading test and we classroom teachers needed to deal with it.

The same thing has been said about the Hunter Safety test I administer.

I can name, off the top of my head, about a dozen adults who can't read. They range in age from early 20s to 80 something.
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Old 02-28-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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The new literacy is technology literacy; understanding the value of technology, and then being able to use it to communicate effectively. I have met only a very few persons who could not read. However I am finding that many today cause problems for others because they are not technologically literate. They do not understand technology to be a literacy to also master. Some seniors only use email, many do not text, some want a phone call, and others yet want information printed out for them. This is very frustrating for an organizer.
I can do those things but I prefer to talk with someone to firm up arrangements or plans. Too many times meanings get lost in a text or even an e-mail. I find talking is much clearer in most cases and can be accomplished in one quick conversation rather than 10 texts back and forth.

I also like to read at my leisure and off of printed material. I know someday that will be gone but I'm going to enjoy it as long as I can.

If you are a good organizer you will adapt.
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Old 02-28-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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My father's father was the son of peasants, and emigrated as a child from Sicily. He could struggle through newspaper articles with difficulty, and he would read with his finger when he read the comics to me (that's how I learned to read at the age of four or five). His mother could write her name, and that was it. She was illiterate in both English and Sicilian. My father's mother had a sixth grade education, as did my mother's parents and none of them were illiterate.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I can do those things but I prefer to talk with someone to firm up arrangements or plans. Too many times meanings get lost in a text or even an e-mail. I find talking is much clearer in most cases and can be accomplished in one quick conversation rather than 10 texts back and forth.

I also likhe to read at my leisure and off of printed material. I know someday that will be gone but I'm going to enjoy it as long as I can.

If you are a good organizer you will adapt.
What's an "organizer"?

If it's a trainer, then his job is to meet the people where they are, not expect them to meet him at his level. if they were there then there wouldn't be a need for training.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Finally the house is done and we are in Port St. Lucie!
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My ex father in law cannot read. I don't know how he got his drivers license but he has one and has had for years. He is in his 80's now and still doesn't read. He relied on his wife to do all the reading that needed to be done throughout life. When she passed away, he relied on other family members to continue helping him with things that needed reading. He has since remarried and I am sure that his current wife is doing his reading for him.

My ex brother in law can barely read and struggles still.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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What's an "organizer"?

If it's a trainer, then his job is to meet the people where they are, not expect them to meet him at his level. if they were there then there wouldn't be a need for training.

Not sure. This from Emptynester1

"This is very frustrating for an organizer."
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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we had a guy at work that refuse to turn on a computer, for seven years some body else had to enter his time, found out after they laid him off, he could read or write
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