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Where is this? Even in DC which is at the very top of the compensation scales, a teacher with 12 years and a doctorate with additional duty days does not make that much and it is well above what LA, San Francisco, Long Island, Jericho Union, Chicago, and Stratford (which are all in high COL areas and are noted for being well paying) are paying for a doctorate and 12 years experience. The closest is DC at a few thousand for the doctorate and extended day, but you are off by 25-35K in the rest. So, please, where is this?
So, Canada. That means that $92,000 is equal to roughly $68,000 in US dollars. And, according to all those public records, for 12 years to get that income they are probably in Alberta, and only in very select districts in that providence - not low cost-of-living areas. Some of the teachers north of Whitehorse or Yellowknife also can make that wage but they are living in a place where even basic groceries have to be flown in, again not low cost-of-living. There are folks in the Alaska Interior that get paid significantly more than average also... wouldn't be worth it to me or most people, regardless of profession.
Regardless, $68,000 for 12 years experience and a master's degree is not some outrageous wage. My accountant niece with just a bachelor's and 3 years experience makes just $1000 less than that here.
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My girlfriend is a nurse, who acts as a case manager for an insurance company. She works out of the home, and makes $110K a year, and can work anywhere in the USA she chooses to live, as it is all online work. She's being doing similar work for the last 2 decades.
My daughter is a 12 year teacher, and makes $94K as a primary grades teacher in a medium cost of living area. Both know they are well paid, and don't assume that they don't have to work hard and effectively to maintain their jobs.
Wait, wait. LOL This number was in Canadian dollars?
dillionmt, I'm glad you came back to clarify that.
Wait, wait. LOL This number was in Canadian dollars?
dillionmt, I'm glad you came back to clarify that.
Except if you compare the cost of living, as I linked to, it relates, dollar for dollar. An median house in Alberta now costs in the neighborhood of $400K. The average house price in the US is about $189K
Except if you compare the cost of living, as I linked to, it relates, dollar for dollar. An median house in Alberta now costs in the neighborhood of $400K. The average house price in the US is about $189K
Except if you compare the cost of living, as I linked to, it relates, dollar for dollar. An median house in Alberta now costs in the neighborhood of $400K. The average house price in the US is about $189K
In your original post you didn't supply a link or mention this was in Canada. You wrote,
"My daughter is a 12 year teacher, and makes $94K as a primary grades teacher in a medium cost of living area".
Except if you compare the cost of living, as I linked to, it relates, dollar for dollar. An median house in Alberta now costs in the neighborhood of $400K. The average house price in the US is about $189K
I'm sorry, but I don't understand if you are saying your daughter is doing well salary-wise (from your original post) or if she isn't making enough compared to housing costs.
Forget the US average. Where I am a teacher with a MA reaches $68k in year eleven. City Data shows the median home value in the county (Zillow) is $521,000.
Starting teacher pay should be 50,000 with yearly steps of $2000 raise a year up to about 90,000.
I'd say it depends on the local area, subject matter, degree, etc. but you're right. The ironic thing is the district I work for is one of the better paying ones in Arizona yet they still don't give enough money to entice teachers...
I have told this story before, but perhaps it's time to tell it once again.
At the time, I was teaching in a school just 7 miles outside of D.C. in...well, I've forgotten if this happened when I was still in Prince George's County, Maryland, or right after I move to Fairfax County, Virginia. At any rate, I had spent some time in Asia on vacations, and had a student who was from Indonesia (his parents worked at the embassy). I was invited to an embassy party, and felt terribly out of place. At one point I was standing in a group of 3 or 4 people and they asked me what my profession was. I said, "Oh, I'm just a teacher." I didn't realize it, but standing in another group of several people directly adjacent to me was the Indonesian ambassador. He turned to me and said, "Just a teacher? What could be more noble?"
When I read or hear too many disparaging remarks about teachers, I try to bring that memory back to remind me that there are far more people who respect teachers than the few __________ who constantly berate us.
Every job is important. Nobody should ever be labeled "just a . . .". Nor should certain professors (such as teachers) be worshipped.
I often point out that without civil engineers, teachers would not be able to get to work to do their job. They then point out that without teachers, civil engineers would not learn how to practice civil engineering. They are right; and that is why we all depend on each other; none of us is more important. The teacher and the civil engineer both depend on the janitor who cleans their office or classroom. Everybody depends on their mechanic so that they have a car to drive to get to work. Etc. If any job were to disappear, we'd all have a problem. (celebrities being the exception. lol)
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