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Old 03-15-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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Girls Are Less Likely To Think That Women Are Super Smart : Shots - Health News : NPR

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Girls in the first few years of elementary school are less likely than boys to say that their own gender is "really, really smart," and less likely to opt into a game described as being for super-smart kids, research finds.

The study, which appears Thursday in Science, comes amid a push to figure out why women are underrepresented in science, technology, engineering and mathematics, or STEM, fields. One line of research involves stereotypes, and how they might influence academic and career choices.
Very sad. What can be done to combat this?

 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:05 AM
 
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It all comes down to mom, if mom is seen as the craft-making cookie baking person, then that is the initial view of adult women. If mom is actively participates and organizes science/nature type activities that demonstrates the skills to advance in STEM fields, then daughters will take notice. Nothing wrong with crafts and baking, but mom's need to take an active and leading role in activities that include math, science, and STEM. Mom needs to demonstrate and model the fact that they are in fact "super smart," and that it is a good thing.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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What can be done to combat this?
Good parenting.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Do girls internally translate "really really smart" into "really really competitive"? Do boys? Do boys who really aren't that smart opt into the game anyway, just because they're competitive? Should girls be allowed to make up their own minds about what games they want to play?


Should we force little girls to be really really competitive, against their will, just to achieve a political goal that some grown-ups favor? Or should we just ban competitive games and make little boys unhappy, just to achieve the same political goal? God help us.
 
Old 03-16-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Do girls internally translate "really really smart" into "really really competitive"? Do boys? Do boys who really aren't that smart opt into the game anyway, just because they're competitive? Should girls be allowed to make up their own minds about what games they want to play?


Should we force little girls to be really really competitive, against their will, just to achieve a political goal that some grown-ups favor? Or should we just ban competitive games and make little boys unhappy, just to achieve the same political goal? God help us.
Yes.

Everyone must be exactly the same, think the same, speak the same, have the same amoral behavior as everyone else. Then and only then will society be equal.

It's hilarious when people think it's fine for boys to do girl stuff, but if girls do girls stuff, well that's beneath them, because they should be doing BOY stuff because boy stuff is so much better for them. And if boys do boy stuff, well, that's terrible, they should be doing girl stuff.

It makes ZERO sense, when you stop and really REALLY think about it. If it's good for one, it should be good for BOTH depending on the child's interest, not the parent's interests or because it is trendy, hip and "tolerant."
 
Old 03-16-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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If it's good for one, it should be good for BOTH depending on the child's interest,
not the parent's interests or because it is trendy, hip and "tolerant."
The question being raised is what SHAPES or INFLUENCES a child's interests... at these younger ages.
Shapes by reinforcing or by negating... and both happen every day.

Like it or not the people most present in the child's life will do most of that.
Who the child is exposed to, their interests and what they are seen to do with their time.
 
Old 03-17-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It all comes down to mom, if mom is seen as the craft-making cookie baking person, then that is the initial view of adult women. If mom is actively participates and organizes science/nature type activities that demonstrates the skills to advance in STEM fields, then daughters will take notice. Nothing wrong with crafts and baking, but mom's need to take an active and leading role in activities that include math, science, and STEM. Mom needs to demonstrate and model the fact that they are in fact "super smart," and that it is a good thing.
Always the parents' fault, usually focused on the mom! You didn't get the Nobel Prize in physics? It's your mom's fault for baking cookies. You do realize there is math and science involved in baking cookies?
 
Old 03-17-2017, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yes.

Everyone must be exactly the same, think the same, speak the same, have the same amoral behavior as everyone else. Then and only then will society be equal.

It's hilarious when people think it's fine for boys to do girl stuff, but if girls do girls stuff, well that's beneath them, because they should be doing BOY stuff because boy stuff is so much better for them. And if boys do boy stuff, well, that's terrible, they should be doing girl stuff.

It makes ZERO sense, when you stop and really REALLY think about it. If it's good for one, it should be good for BOTH depending on the child's interest, not the parent's interests or because it is trendy, hip and "tolerant."
It's actually more like, "boys and girls should just do 'boy stuff' ". Girl stuff, like caring and nurturing, and G*d forbid baking cookies is bad. Forget those cookies, go split some wood! Crafts? Well, woodworking is OK, but sewing, knitting, crochet is NOT!
 
Old 03-17-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Yes.

Everyone must be exactly the same, think the same, speak the same, have the same amoral behavior as everyone else. Then and only then will society be equal.

It's hilarious when people think it's fine for boys to do girl stuff, but if girls do girls stuff, well that's beneath them, because they should be doing BOY stuff because boy stuff is so much better for them. And if boys do boy stuff, well, that's terrible, they should be doing girl stuff.

It makes ZERO sense, when you stop and really REALLY think about it. If it's good for one, it should be good for BOTH depending on the child's interest, not the parent's interests or because it is trendy, hip and "tolerant."
The issue is not who is doing stuff, it's that it should all just be simply "stuff", not "girl stuff" or "boy stuff".
 
Old 03-17-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Always the parents' fault, usually focused on the mom!
In that age range? Yeah. And there's really no argument to made otherwise.

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You do realize there is math and science involved in baking cookies?
I do. I suspect most reading this thread do as well.
But does the cookie baking Mom realize it?

More to the point though... does she use these activities as an opportunity to teach
the children about the chemistry and biology and anatomy and physics and the math
involved in all the common activities they are doing at home?

So... how many Mom's (or Dad's) will do that?
The implication, the reality, is that very few parents (Mom's or Dad's) do.
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