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You can tell I'm getting really really old because I find it hard to believe that the United States has come to this. We just needed a couple of pencils and a binder with paper when I went to school. Geez.....I cannot imagine trying to bring up a child in this world today!
Two questions: (1) How did a moron like that become a principal? , and (2) Why didn't anybody complain, be it teachers or parents? There's nothing bad about taking unused supplies home and reusing them next year.
I noticed the same thing, based on the reading I did, and I wondered too. It's only the elementary and middle schools that got taken over by supply racketeers; high schools still have a traditional, normal mindset. Well, science teachers require you bring stuff like safety goggles, but that's about it. Could it be because high school have sports teams that bring in revenue, and therefore they have less need for kickbacks from supply manufacturers? Or for a less conspiracist view, the revenue from sports teams reduces the necessity for supply lists.
Do you really believe schools and, especially, teachers are getting kickback for pencils? Really?
While you're in a finger pointing mode you need to point it at who's actually responsible, school boards that have removed these supplies, upon recommendation by consultants and migrant labor Broad Foundation graduate Superintendents, from the budget as supplied by the schools while adopting curricula requiring those supplies.
The reason high school supplies are less is because there are a lot less hands on activities in high school.
As a note: you really need some sort of education about school budgets.
Do you really believe schools and, especially, teachers are getting kickback for pencils? Really?
While you're in a finger pointing mode you need to point it at who's actually responsible, school boards that have removed these supplies, upon recommendation by consultants and migrant labor Broad Foundation graduate Superintendents, from the budget as supplied by the schools while adopting curricula requiring those supplies.
The reason high school supplies are less is because there are a lot less hands on activities in high school.
As a note: you really need some sort of education about school budgets.
I'm glad you posted that.
Where were the kickbacks for my school when I was principal.
I didn't ever see any kickbacks, even from yearbook sales!
What a fantasy.
Do you really believe schools and, especially, teachers are getting kickback for pencils? Really?
While you're in a finger pointing mode you need to point it at who's actually responsible, school boards that have removed these supplies, upon recommendation by consultants and migrant labor Broad Foundation graduate Superintendents, from the budget as supplied by the schools while adopting curricula requiring those supplies.
The reason high school supplies are less is because there are a lot less hands on activities in high school.
As a note: you really need some sort of education about school budgets.
Yeah that was a nonsensical post. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
My mouth dropped when I saw a closet full of boxes of tissues in one classroom where I subbed.
Was this at the beginning of the school year? At back to school night, when kids bring in their supplies, a lot of teachers are cramming tissue boxes anywhere they can. So yes. anyone who walked into a classroom in my building during the first few weeks of school might think there is an overabundance of tissues. But by the end of the year, after flu/cold and allergy season? All those boxes are long gone.
Do you really believe schools and, especially, teachers are getting kickback for pencils? Really?
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The reason high school supplies are less is because there are a lot less hands on activities in high school.
I hope I'm wrong, I really do. But when school supplies lists reach astronomical proportions, and are brand-specific, and become communal (which enables wastefulness), and new ones are required every year, I can't help but smell a rat and wonder "what if?" What's so bad about making a short list of daily must-haves and brief advance notices for non-daily supplies? It worked until very recently, after all.
Maybe so, but high school still requires stuff like pens, pencils, notebooks, etc. Yet nobody demands 40 items on the first day; you just need to have one or two on you every day. (I'm not factoring in specialized items, like a lab apron or a TI calculator.) And on that note, my Spanish classes were actually quite hands-on: we made posters, but those were usually for homework. Classroom hands-on assignments only required people, like putting on a mini-play in front of class.
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I hope I'm wrong, I really do. But when school supplies lists reach astronomical proportions, and are brand-specific, and become communal (which enables wastefulness), and new ones are required every year, I can't help but smell a rat and wonder "what if?" What's so bad about making a short list of daily must-haves and brief advance notices for non-daily supplies? It worked until very recently, after all.
Maybe so, but high school still requires stuff like pens, pencils, notebooks, etc. Yet nobody demands 40 items on the first day; you just need to have one or two on you every day. (I'm not factoring in specialized items, like a lab apron or a TI calculator.) And on that note, my Spanish classes were actually quite hands-on: we made posters, but those were usually for homework. Classroom hands-on assignments only required people, like putting on a mini-play in front of class.
What's the obsession? Parent? Uncle of a student? Teacher? Volunteer? What are you basing your analysis on? An article? Your grade school experience?
What's the obsession? Parent? Uncle of a student? Teacher? Volunteer? What are you basing your analysis on?
None of the above. I'm just annoyed by what schools are turning into. Don't get me wrong: I'd be fine with bringing truly necessary supplies. Just don't p1ss on me and tell me it's rain.
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So since they’re not included you think the responsibility should fall on the teachers and not the parents?
I didn't mean to infer that at all.
What I said/meant was that most of these school supplies, in my experience, don't even get used or if they do? Only a few pages in a marble notebook or 3 ring binder that has to be set up in a certain way, etc.
Where’s the list that requires all of those binders?
I looked for the supply list on the school website but I can't find it. The school just completely changed the site & I'm guessing they didn't bother with the supply lists because it's the middle of the school year.
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Actually I could see that in HS.
The only supplies required in my kids' HS is an iPad (for each student to have) & the text books or etexts on an annual basis.
I think I may have mentioned that Visorgogs are required for classes with labs & calculators for certain math classes.
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Either way what does it matter? Send it or don’t. If you don’t and they need it someone else will provide it right?
It matters because it adds up monetarily & not all of it gets used in an efficient manner or at all (in my experience).
I don't do things that way. My kids' will have what they are required to & as requested.
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, and (2) Why didn't anybody complain, be it teachers or parents? 
There's nothing bad about taking unused supplies home and reusing them next year.
