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Old 10-12-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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My 4 year old asked me what 8 and 8 makes today and I told her to hold up 8 fingers and then start with 8 and count up. She was really excited when she got the answer and wanted to keep playing the "game". Is that a good way to teach basic addition starting out? I guess I could use change or dots too, or maybe there's something better. I won't push things, but my daughter is pretty inquisitive and I remember loving math and figuring things out around the same age.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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Wonderful. The math to teach her is in the world she inhabits. Counting things. How counting by one's is so exhausting. But by 2s, 5s, 10s, etc. is so fast. like walking vs. skipping vs. running.

Games--all the way. Thinking of them for all four operators.

Once she is at five, there are cool online programs that will start at her level. Getting her excited is 90% of the battle. Good job!
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Abacus Lesson 1 // Introduction, Proper Technique, & History of the Abacus // Tutorial



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkUdjlQy3rk
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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It's a fantastic way to teach math. Unfortunately, if Common Core is still around you may run into trouble with the teachers for teaching your child a commonsensical way of doing the math. Not trying to reduce your excitement in your child's progress, because that is awesome. I'm just getting wearier by the day of dealing with a child who can do long division and a teacher/curriculum that refuses to let her.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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Look up Montessori math too. It's very hands on and fun.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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Thanks all. Some good stuff.

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It's a fantastic way to teach math. Unfortunately, if Common Core is still around you may run into trouble with the teachers for teaching your child a commonsensical way of doing the math. Not trying to reduce your excitement in your child's progress, because that is awesome. I'm just getting wearier by the day of dealing with a child who can do long division and a teacher/curriculum that refuses to let her.
I think I'm going to hate common core math. Math always came naturally to me and my wife, and I would often skip steps, not want to show work, or figure out alternative ways of solving problems. We both did well on the SATs and ACTs (especially math) and studied engineering at a top tier school. I don't know enough about common core yet, but I know a lot of people are not happy with it.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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Thanks all. Some good stuff.



I think I'm going to hate common core math. Math always came naturally to me and my wife, and I would often skip steps, not want to show work, or figure out alternative ways of solving problems. We both did well on the SATs and ACTs (especially math) and studied engineering at a top tier school. I don't know enough about common core yet, but I know a lot of people are not happy with it.
If you liked coming up with alternative ways to solve a problem (reaching the same answer), be open to Common Core. You'll probably like it. It's especially easier to work with it from a young age. I always liked playing with numbers in my head and I can't figure out why Common Core is hated so much. I'm sure there are some teachers who may not teach it well but the precepts of it are not terrible concepts in and of themselves.
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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It's a fantastic way to teach math. Unfortunately, if Common Core is still around you may run into trouble with the teachers for teaching your child a commonsensical way of doing the math. Not trying to reduce your excitement in your child's progress, because that is awesome. I'm just getting wearier by the day of dealing with a child who can do long division and a teacher/curriculum that refuses to let her.
One thing to learn is when to ignore teachers and when to tell them what they want to hear while not believing it yourself.

My mother sent me to a Catholic school but I decided I was an agnostic at 12. I did not tell the nuns or my mother.

Reading SF introduces more ideas than most other books.
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:28 PM
 
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It's a fantastic way to teach math. Unfortunately, if Common Core is still around you may run into trouble with the teachers for teaching your child a commonsensical way of doing the math. Not trying to reduce your excitement in your child's progress, because that is awesome. I'm just getting wearier by the day of dealing with a child who can do long division and a teacher/curriculum that refuses to let her.
Oh jeez, the strategies in common core aren't nonsensical they are just different to what you might have learned as a kid.

By all means teach your kid whatever works best, that's all the CC strategies are trying to provide anyway.
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One thing to learn is when to ignore teachers and when to tell them what they want to hear while not believing it yourself.

My mother sent me to a Catholic school but I decided I was an agnostic at 12. I did not tell the nuns or my mother.

Reading SF introduces more ideas than most other books.
This is all over the place and confusing but I really do want to understand... Care to explain?
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:36 PM
 
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If you liked coming up with alternative ways to solve a problem (reaching the same answer), be open to Common Core. You'll probably like it. It's especially easier to work with it from a young age. I always liked playing with numbers in my head and I can't figure out why Common Core is hated so much. I'm sure there are some teachers who may not teach it well but the precepts of it are not terrible concepts in and of themselves.
As I've said elsewhere, the idea behind Common Core was probably a good one. Between the idea and the execution, though, something went haywire. Adding an extra 11 steps to a math problem for 10-year-olds in an effort to teach them "number theory" is completely unnecessary. Teach them to do the math, save the number theory for kids that want to be mathematicians. I've dealt with too many tears from my daughter over the facts that a) she is frustrated because the method they are teaching is redundant and overly complicated, b) she gets her problems marked as wrong when she gets the answer correct because she didn't do it the "stupid way" (her words, btw), and c) she has now gone from a child who loved math in fourth grade and had thought she might be a teacher to a child who dreads going to school every day because of math class.

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One thing to learn is when to ignore teachers and when to tell them what they want to hear while not believing it yourself.

My mother sent me to a Catholic school but I decided I was an agnostic at 12. I did not tell the nuns or my mother.

Reading SF introduces more ideas than most other books.
Unfortunately, that is not an option. We have to pretend that this ridiculousness is a wonderful thing, even though my wife and I both see the damage it is doing to our daughter. We won't denigrate the teacher or the school, or even the curriculum, in front of her. However, late night conversations now tend to revolve around math, how ridiculous this whole system is, and how to keep her interest in it.
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