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Old 09-06-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Poor management on the part of the administration to schedule a dance before the day that most juniors take the SAT/ACT!
Yes it was.

Apparently the left hand and right hand were not communicating in a meaningful way. I have no idea who picks the dates for things like Prom or homecoming or sadie hawkins or whatever. I thought it was probably student groups, but maybe not.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Not if you don't have the time to visit every single public and private school in the area. Greatschools is a small snapshot/window that provides information about a school you otherwise would have no idea about.
Make the time. It is important and your kids are worth it.
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Old 09-06-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Northern Appalachia
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Make the time. It is important and your kids are worth it.
Visiting schools will give you some information but not that much. How many classes can you actually sit in and they will likely being doing some activity that will not give you much insight. I have been in many classrooms and couldn't give you an valid evaluation of many of the the teachers. Have you ever actually gone through this process?
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Old 04-02-2021, 07:01 PM
 
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Niche is garbage. Greatschools is so much better. Niche deletes negative reviews when the school complains. It is pathetic.
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Old 04-03-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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Niche is garbage. Greatschools is so much better. Niche deletes negative reviews when the school complains. It is pathetic.
Great Schools is not very good either. Try US News and World Report


https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ue&public=true

For the best state systems try here:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...kings-by-state

States with the Best Public Schools
WalletHub ranked each state's public schools for "Quality" and "Safety" using 33 relevant metrics. Metrics included high school graduation rate among low-income students, math and reading scores, median SAT and ACT scores, pupil-teach ratio, the share of armed students, number of school shootings between 2000 and June 2020 bullying incidence rate, and more.

Based on these metrics, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey have the best public schools in the United States.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:48 AM
 
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Just as an aside, our school gives the ACT to all juniors sometime in April I believe. It's given during the week since it's a mandatory test. There is a push to drop the state standardized tests and just use the ACT since they take it anyway.

As for the OP's main question, I think more important than the school statistics are the statistics/demographics of the parents in the school district. Are they upper/middle/lower economic class? What is the percentage college degree/advanced degree/no degree? More than anything else, parents who are themselves successful, and who have advanced education expect the same from their kids and expect the schools to provide a quality education. They expect their kids to learn and to behave.

As best I can tell, those parents don't care too much about school rankings and standardized tests; they care about results. And if the school is producing good results, then it's a good school.
This is what I was going to respond with. All you have to do is look at the census data and you have your answer. 20% of adults with college degrees is going to have a lousy school system. 70%+ is going to have a strong school system. In high cost of living areas, you also have to consider the trend. A former working class town can have 50% geezers with High School education & union pensions but young parents are almost all white collar professionals. Boston has a bunch of suburbs like that. The town has 50% of adults with college degrees but anyone under age 40 buying a home is a higher income professional.
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Old 04-05-2021, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Based on these metrics, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey have the best public schools in the United States.
Which demonstrates how meaningless generalizations made from statistics are for determining which school is best for your kids.
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Old 04-05-2021, 08:22 AM
 
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Which demonstrates how meaningless generalizations made from statistics are for determining which school is best for your kids.

Generally, the public schools in the gold plated white collar professional bedroom towns in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey are among the best in the country. Those are massively socioeconomically segregated places with plenty of towns with 70%+ college educated adults and full local control over local public schools and keep the unwashed masses out via restrictive zoning. Nobody is trying to claim that Springfield or Holyoke MA, Hartford CT, or Camden NJ have anything but total disaster public schools.


It's not the state doing anything. It's the concentration of white collar professional bedroom towns without something funky interfering with the segregation or the school budget.



Places with stronger county government don't tend to have that level of socioeconomic segregation in their public school systems.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Generally, the public schools in the gold plated white collar professional bedroom towns in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey are among the best in the country. Those are massively socioeconomically segregated places with plenty of towns with 70%+ college educated adults and full local control over local public schools and keep the unwashed masses out via restrictive zoning. Nobody is trying to claim that Springfield or Holyoke MA, Hartford CT, or Camden NJ have anything but total disaster public schools.


It's not the state doing anything. It's the concentration of white collar professional bedroom towns without something funky interfering with the segregation or the school budget.



Places with stronger county government don't tend to have that level of socioeconomic segregation in their public school systems.
What is missing is that the statistical data does not determine a "best" school for a given student. They are not better or best schools, they are just schools that happen to have a lot of students who are highly pressured by their parents to excel. This does not make a given school "better" or "best" except in the fantasy world of realtor's attempts to brainwash the public. Being around a lot of highly pressured peers might be better for one student and disastrous for anther. You cannot determine a "best' school by statistics.
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