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Yeah, I'm getting fairly sick of it. For me, although I've met many great teachers, I've also met plenty of average and God awful teachers (like any profession). So I'm sick of people acting like it some hallowed profession with AMAZING people that DESERVE so much MORE, etc. I agree some do but not all. They also have great benefits, summers off, tons of holidays, unions that make it difficult for them to be fired, great retirement and health plans, etc. Salary is probably lower starting out depending on your state but the benefits are very good. When I was in college, a teaching degree was what the girls did who frankly weren't smart enough for other professions. It's well known as a soft major.
If they would agree to something similar to what Michelle Rhee wanted to implement in the documentary Waiting for Superman in which poor performing teachers were fired and high performers received higher compensation, I would be on board for everything they wanted. Of course, that proposal was shot down by the union.
There isn't a single teacher in my school or district who majored in education. We all have degrees, either undergrad or grad, in our fields.
Well, indirectly, it is...and certainly more "for the kids" that what appears to be your perspective.
Let's say you're a top notch teacher with excellent qualifications. Where are you going to go to work? The district where pay is $10,000 higher or $10,000 lower? The district where benefits are superior or the district where benefits are inferior?
It's no different than most professions/jobs. If you wanna hire the best people, you gotta pay 'em well.
If I told someone to give me money or your kids will suffer what would happen?
There isn't a single teacher in my school or district who majored in education. We all have degrees, either undergrad or grad, in our fields.
I'm glad you mentioned that...and it's a misconception I try to clear up often.
I don't believe any of our middle school teachers had a degree in education, or if they did it was AFTER they had gotten a content area degree. My initial two degrees were in geology, with minors in meteorology and climate, geography, and education. My graduate degree was in ed admin and curriculum.
My point is that $300-$400 a month for health care looks like a pretty darn good benefit from my point of view! I thought that could be easily inferred from the context.
That’s what I assumed, but your point was misguided. The PPs weren’t saying they thought their payments were high. They weren’t complaining. The responses were to those who were saying teachers get “free healthcare”. The point you were trying to make was irrelevant.
I find it somewhat funny that “I’m tired of teachers complaining” threads like this are started by someone who is complaining about teachers and not actually by a complaining teacher.
Well, I think that post speaks for itself. Case closed. And on ignore...a waste of time trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with someone who posts like that.
If you can't do...Teach........If you're a can't teach, ignore the problem.....
When I was in college, a teaching degree was what the girls did who frankly weren't smart enough for other professions. It's well known as a soft major.
This is true. At fourth tier colleges like that, an education major is a bit of a joke. At the better universities it is a challenging major and often requires five years to complete because the teachers have to essentially major in a field as well as learning the education part. They do not always get a degree in the specific field, but they have to take nearly all of the required classes for a degree in that field. So for example to be a chemistry teacher, they need to take nearly all the classes a chem major takes and also take all the education classes.
I am not sure teaching has more "girls" than other majors anymore. Now, women are allowed in all fields and most universities now 'have more women than men overall. Thus, my sons engineering school was 55% women. They are taking over the world. Men are going to be relegated to sitting at home and looking pretty.
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