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Old 04-22-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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In Kansas, students initiated a classroom walkout after the school district embraced computerized teaching method called Summit Learning in response to severe cutbacks in education funding. The learning platform consisted of lesson plans and quizzes that students completed on computer at their own pace. Although families initially liked the idea, it soon became apparent the learning method did not work well. Students reported not learning as well as they did under the guidance of a teacher, the described feeling lonely and isolated, and reported feeling nervous and distracted at school.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/21/t...gtype=Homepage
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:31 AM
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I believe it.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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But... but... it's designed by the finest billionaires in Silicon Valley!

FWIW, I think this is the gist of future education, and it has much potential for very individualized programs and the kind of intense, immediate feedback only a very good teacher with a low student ratio can provide. But this notion that gluing kids to a Chromebook and pumping programmatic material at them constitutes "education" as seen outside Google labs is... ignorant nonsense from tech weens.
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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Here are two other links about this.

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/22/summit-learning.html

https://www.studentprivacymatters.or...ized-learning/

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Mark Zuckerberg has repeatedly broken every promise he’s made about keeping personal data private and neither CZI nor the new nonprofit that will take over Summit headed by Zuckerberg’s wife have provided any reason that parents should trust them any more.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:39 PM
 
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But - it's on the comPUUUUUter, so it must be good!
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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But - it's on the comPUUUUUter, so it must be good!
I get your point, but even as someone who started off getting great upper body development doing traditional research (one armload of books at a time), online, digital and multimedia material and learning techniques have tremendous promise. They've just been grossly misused.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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A lot of research has already been done on how effective online education is for people ages 18 to 24. Adult learners (over the age of 24) tend to do fine in online classes, but younger students tend to do worse. If the school districts had read this research, they could have made the educated guess that Summit Learning and similar programs would not work well in high schools.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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A lot of research has already been done on how effective online education is for people ages 18 to 24. Adult learners (over the age of 24) tend to do fine in online classes, but younger students tend to do worse. If the school districts had read this research, they could have made the educated guess that Summit Learning and similar programs would not work well in high schools.
More to the point, perhaps, they would have designed the interaction for the age group.

Online learning tends to be designed by two completely inept groups: educational consultants (when not educational academics) and software developers. "Those who can't teach... design teaching systems."
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Old 04-23-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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I get your point, but even as someone who started off getting great upper body development doing traditional research (one armload of books at a time), online, digital and multimedia material and learning techniques have tremendous promise. They've just been grossly misused.
Of course, in this day and age no one could dispute that.


Remember, though, you need to choose the tool for the job. Just because you can do something on the computer doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULD.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:48 PM
 
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I'm 22...this is what the future holds for us and sometimes, I wonder why I'd want to live to see it at all. Too many electronics, too many people glued to their phones (I'm part of this, unfortunately), too much advancement. I sound like a Luddite now, but it's just scary to me that one day, people will go to school, plug themselves into their government assigned iMac and absorb their lesson for the day through USB 10.


OBVIOUSLY the last part was a massive exaggeration and would never happen, but I think y'all can see what I might mean. Maybe I'm afraid of the future and afraid of advancement, but maybe it's normal.
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