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We commenced this review by asking why the reading wars have continued. Despite extensive scientific evidence, accumulated over decades, for the centrality of alphabetic decoding skills as a foundation of learning to read, there remains resistance to using phonics instruction methods in the classroom.
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It's no 'surprise' since the Vo-tech programs are getting students from the same 'output' as us(A) employers... =USA 'disaster' K-12 grads(?). Helpless and hopeless, (and NOT educated) so sad for all. (Except for those feeding at the K-12 pig trough (administrators reaping the gravy salaries and pensions)).
... My dad did not finish high school. The depression and WW2 got in the way. He was the son of a sharecropper. During his life he did many jobs to buy that farm he sharecropped on as a kid. He painted houses. He picked up garbage. I learned both beside right beside him. My mother was the daughter of an Appalachian coal miner. She worked in a shipyard in WW2. In high school I took vocational ed as well as algebra. The labor force in that town, like many others in the south worked in a cotton mill. The way out of the cotton mill was through learning a trade or joining the military. At age 17 dad drove me to the recruiting station and said "Pick one." Thanks Dad. You gave me more than I could ever repay.
Uncle Sam sent me to college. And it has been a wonderful career. But I've never forgotten my roots.
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If you're going to quote me, do it in context so that you don't mislead others on what I said. I made a positive comment about my upbringing and somehow you've tried to turn it into a putdown.
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I'm not dismissing your information. I'm trying to tell you what your school is doing doesn't fit into "college vs trade school" since according to you most of these kids in this CTE go on to college. It shouldn't excite tnff either, as he is one of the main proponents of "college isn't for everyone" and pushes some type of vo-tech for those who shouldn't (in his opinion) be going to college, and those who should "remember where they came from".
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I'm pretty sure they still do that at the local high school. Maybe the kids come out with medical assisting certificates, though, now that I think about it.
Oh...goodness...so you got nurses aid mixed up with medical assistant? Um...makes a teeny bit more sense........
If someone doesn’t want to go to college tho...or can’t....but wants to go into nursing....I would recommend at least going for LVN....can always go back to college & sit for RN after that.........
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I don't think AnotherTouch was cutting class. That was part of her schedule. You can't train high school students for much of any skilled job because they don't have enough education for them.
I don't look at CNA work as "menial labor", either. It useful work, as opposed to "Do you want fries with that?"
It’s useful & ofc I said that......but not something a high school should be training for.....nurses aids can get hired on right away after hs graduation.....& be trained.....but she said she meant medical assistant...
If high schools are going to have vocational training...why not for something a little more skilled than something anyone can walk off the street & apply for with no training....
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I got a job in a nursing home right after I graduated from high school (and got my certification) and I think I was making $10 an hour. In 1995, the minimum wage was under $5, so that's not bad for an 18-year-old. I only lasted a month, maybe, because it was totally not for me. But there was a young woman my age working there who had a two-year-old daughter... she needed the money and seemed to like the job (or at least she didn't hate it). That was better for her than working at McDonald's.
Tbh...if I had to pick....I’d take a food service job over a nurses aid. It’s back breaking work & requires lots of lifting. I worked retail..(for spending money & college)...from the time I was 16....before becoming an RN Lic Pending...then RN....
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