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Old 12-13-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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As previously noted, medicine is a very high paying field compared to other occupations.
If it's about money, then you might as well just give the child money and let them choose what they want to do for a profession... rather than dictate what field they go in.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:21 PM
 
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IF that's what one wants to do, there is certainly a lot of variation of types of medicine and practices to get into. ER docs generally have no real lives. Constantly on call. Lots of hours. Paid well but not that much more than other types of docs who deal with much less stress. It takes a special kid of person to want to live that life. Needs to be a true calling.

On the other hand, I have a really good friend from college who ended up as a podiatrist (foot doctor). He works at a clinic which has normal daytime hours and rarely is there an emergency he has to come in for immediately (foot emergencies aren't exactly that common). He gets tons of days off and vacation, and makes somewhere in the range north of $250k. Yes, he had a lot of loans and had to go through a lot of schooling and residency, but he was making real money by 30 which isn't that bad really. His wife is a doc, too (ENT) so even though they have had a lot of loans with their salary's combined they are doing just fine and now have them essentially paid off.
My son's best friend is an ER doc sitting on a locum tenens gig. It must be different where you are this kid will be working 16-18 days per month, long hours though. The money is fantastic.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:22 PM
 
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Typical conventional medical doctor schools are largely controlled and funded by drug companies. "Ask your doctor". Bazillion tv drug ads today. That's what the profession has become. Let your kid decide his/her future.
That's patently false.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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OK, I just confirmed that he has Orgo II on his Spring semester schedule. Fingers crossed!
Sounds like your kiddo is on top of all this. Best of luck to him.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:36 PM
 
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You can make a lucrative income as a broadcaster on ESPN but it the odds aren't great. Lots of folks out there that probably want to do it. I wonder how many of them actually make it, or have the requisite technical skills to be successful. I know a lot of guys that wanted to work in Wildlife Biology since they love to hunt and fish. When they find out a handful of things about the field, right around graduation or shortly after, their interest wanes. I can say the same thing about Golf Pros and a dozen other career fields. .
It's funny that you mention wildlife biology because that's my kid's field. Hunting and fishing has nothing to do with this field. It's an anti-hunting field actually. Most of the time is spent in the laboratory and in front of a computer analyzing your field work, using math and science. My kid's SO is a video game developer. There are different aspects of the industry, some of them are technical, some is artistic and some of it is in design. The kid had minimal technical skills to become a designer. That's someone else's job. You can also be a video game tester (not as easy as it sounds). It's an industry that pays well, not as competitive like being an ESPN broadcaster and doesn't require a rocket science IQ, just some aptitude. You get into this field through internships which you get after majoring in video game design. It's not as much of a niche major as you think and entry into the field isn't any more difficult than many other fields. It's also an industry with a lot of growth so not a bad career choice at all.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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Talking a kid into being a doctor simply means guiding that kid through their schooling years to ultimately go to med school. Period. So the kid gets good SAT scores, avoids wasting time on garbage that will unlikely ever influence their life in any way.

And, so anyway, the kid gets to 16 or so and heads off in another direction. So what? They've had many years to learn what being a good student is all about. Kicking a ball around will benefit very few kids.

BTW, doctors' glory days are finished. Lawyers have won that game of who ranks higher in the community (who has the bigger house, the fancier car). Just remember, it's very easy to get into med school these days. And once you graduate from med school, there are hundreds of career opportunities - many having nothing to do with patient care.

Better a doctors' kit than a basketball.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:29 PM
 
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BTW, doctors' glory days are finished. Lawyers have won that game of who ranks higher in the community (who has the bigger house, the fancier car). Just remember, it's very easy to get into med school these days. And once you graduate from med school, there are hundreds of career opportunities - many having nothing to do with patient care.

Better a doctors' kit than a basketball.
I know a number of docs. and lawyers. Docs. on balance make more money.

It's absolutely not, "very easy to get into medical school these days"................the numbers run counter to your claim.
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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Talking a kid into being a doctor simply means guiding that kid through their schooling years to ultimately go to med school. Period. So the kid gets good SAT scores, avoids wasting time on garbage that will unlikely ever influence their life in any way.

And, so anyway, the kid gets to 16 or so and heads off in another direction. So what? They've had many years to learn what being a good student is all about. Kicking a ball around will benefit very few kids.

BTW, doctors' glory days are finished. Lawyers have won that game of who ranks higher in the community (who has the bigger house, the fancier car). Just remember, it's very easy to get into med school these days. And once you graduate from med school, there are hundreds of career opportunities - many having nothing to do with patient care.

Better a doctors' kit than a basketball.
VERY EASY? The “easiest” medical schools to get into still accept around 10% of applicants, while many accept in the range of under 6%. In general, osteopathic medical schools are easier to get into than allopathic medical schools, but they are all quite competitive these days. More than 90% of graduates will end up with a residency either through the match process or the SOAP. Those that do not may have picked specialties that were too ambitious.

In contrast, many law schools will accept people as long as they have a college degree and a pulse. The schools might not even care if people can pass the bar exam. Lots of schools have a very low employment rate after graduation. Yes, there are people that do well and there is obviously not the lag of 3-7 years of residency before graduates can really start to pay down the loans, but the majority of graduates are not ending up with jobs that initially pay in the six figures. Many start in jobs that rival what medical residents make.
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:04 AM
 
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You may have to, in order to protect the kids from the pressure your wife is putting them under. Make no mistake, that type of psychological pressure is damaging.

Frankly, if she's so gung-ho to have a doctor in the family, why isn't SHE applying to medical school?
Agreed.
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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I know a number of docs. and lawyers. Docs. on balance make more money.

It's absolutely not, "very easy to get into medical school these days"................the numbers run counter to your claim.
Sorry for the self quote. It's too late to edit that above post.

I just looked at some numbers to be sure. Average doctor pay (~$210,000) is much higher than average lawyer pay (~$120,000).
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