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Old 07-14-2020, 11:50 PM
 
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Our local smallish school district just voted to have all distance learning for the beginning of the school year.
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Old 07-15-2020, 02:29 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Default Reopening Options/Online Default

This inappropriately titled Reuters article surveys the policies of several school districts across the country.

My takeaway is that all, or most, of the school districts surveyed, even if they have declared that they plan on reopening, are also offering the online option (not 'either/or', but 'both/and' simultaneously), and the online option is the default mode if infection levels and rates do not meet certain thresholds on the downside.

San Diego and Los Angeles Unified School Districts have already announced, respectively, that they will remain online only until the situation is under control, no date put on that.

Miami-Dade Public School System has announced that, though it does have plans for reopening, it will remain online only while the County is in phase 1, no date put on that, and in any case they will offer the online option for those families who choose to pursue it.

By the way, Miami-Dade Public School System has already been offering an online option for years, long before the pandemic, and even the State of Florida offers a statewide online option (not sure if something new or pre-existing).

All the best!
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Old 07-15-2020, 03:15 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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I haven't read thru this fairy tale thread, but before anyone panics as CNN & MSNBC would have you do, better checks the stats--deaths among school age kids infected with CoViD is literally 1 in a million; for younger adults (ie- teachers) it's 1 in 10,000 infections....and these younger people don't shed the virus to give it to others very well.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23...age-race-14863 Scroll down to "Infection Fatality Rate by Age."

BTW-- risk of an American dying in an auto accident this year: 1 in 10,000. ..If you're under 55 and worried about dying from CoViD, maybe you better stay out of cars too.
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Old 07-15-2020, 04:26 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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I haven't read thru this fairy tale thread, but before anyone panics as CNN & MSNBC would have you do, better checks the stats--deaths among school age kids infected with CoViD is literally 1 in a million; for younger adults (ie- teachers) it's 1 in 10,000 infections....and these younger people don't shed the virus to give it to others very well.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23...age-race-14863 Scroll down to "Infection Fatality Rate by Age."

BTW-- risk of an American dying in an auto accident this year: 1 in 10,000. ..If you're under 55 and worried about dying from CoViD, maybe you better stay out of cars too.

What school-age kids?

Children have not been in school since March.

Let's check those "stats" after nine months in poorly ventilated enclosed classrooms for six hours per day as children are oblivious to "guidelines" after 15 seconds and adults ignore them after 30.

Then, maybe, we can draw conclusions.

You go first!
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Old 07-15-2020, 04:51 AM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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for younger adults (ie- teachers)
The average teacher in the US is 42 years old, and 30% of teachers are 50+ years old.
https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/sass/tab...14_t1s_002.asp
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Old 07-15-2020, 04:55 AM
 
Location: NJ
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What school-age kids?

Children have not been in school since March.

Let's check those "stats" after nine months in poorly ventilated enclosed classrooms for six hours per day as children are oblivious to "guidelines" after 15 seconds and adults ignore them after 30.

Then, maybe, we can draw conclusions.

You go first!

All the children who are school aged are school aged even if they dont attend school. Between 5-18 years old is generally considered school aged. And whether or not they attend school the mortality rate is the same. The infection rate is lower but whether 500 kids contract it or 100,000 contract the mortality rate is (or at least should be) consistent.
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Old 07-15-2020, 05:28 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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This inappropriately titled Reuters article surveys the policies of several school districts across the country.

My takeaway is that all, or most, of the school districts surveyed, even if they have declared that they plan on reopening, are also offering the online option (not 'either/or', but 'both/and' simultaneously), and the online option is the default mode if infection levels and rates do not meet certain thresholds on the downside.

San Diego and Los Angeles Unified School Districts have already announced, respectively, that they will remain online only until the situation is under control, no date put on that.

Miami-Dade Public School System has announced that, though it does have plans for reopening, it will remain online only while the County is in phase 1, no date put on that, and in any case they will offer the online option for those families who choose to pursue it.

By the way, Miami-Dade Public School System has already been offering an online option for years, long before the pandemic, and even the State of Florida offers a statewide online option (not sure if something new or pre-existing).

All the best!
A lot of states have a virtual School system run by the state board of education.
They are public schools and adhere to state guidelines and also administer the state tests (if there are any)
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Old 07-15-2020, 05:46 AM
 
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I haven't read thru this fairy tale thread, but before anyone panics as CNN & MSNBC would have you do, better checks the stats--deaths among school age kids infected with CoViD is literally 1 in a million; for younger adults (ie- teachers) it's 1 in 10,000 infections....and these younger people don't shed the virus to give it to others very well.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23...age-race-14863 Scroll down to "Infection Fatality Rate by Age."

BTW-- risk of an American dying in an auto accident this year: 1 in 10,000. ..If you're under 55 and worried about dying from CoViD, maybe you better stay out of cars too.
We have become a society that collectively won’t accept any risk. Facts won’t matter if one child gets sick and die and it goes all over the news.

Net-net - if a district decides in class learning is the way to go, teachers will have to teach in class, or resign, or find a virtual option for them if they have enough seniority.
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Old 07-15-2020, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Where clams are a pizza topping
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I haven't read thru this fairy tale thread, but before anyone panics as CNN & MSNBC would have you do, better checks the stats--deaths among school age kids infected with CoViD is literally 1 in a million; for younger adults (ie- teachers) it's 1 in 10,000 infections....and these younger people don't shed the virus to give it to others very well.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23...age-race-14863 Scroll down to "Infection Fatality Rate by Age."

BTW-- risk of an American dying in an auto accident this year: 1 in 10,000. ..If you're under 55 and worried about dying from CoViD, maybe you better stay out of cars too.
My concern is with limitations of the statistics we have so far: stats have been gathered during a time when children as a whole have not been in school, sports, camp, or any other normal day-to-day activity. The fact that they have had low infection and transmission rates while sheltering in place (or at very least with limited contact outside of their household) is not a very good indicator of what the risks are if/when they resume those activities during the pandemic.
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Old 07-15-2020, 06:10 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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We have become a society that collectively won’t accept any risk. Facts won’t matter if one child gets sick and die and it goes all over the news.
Probability, risk analysis and decision-making are not facts, they are forward-looking projections on past data points. Individual statisticians - human beings - choose data points based on their objectives - their agendas.


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Net-net - if a district decides in class learning is the way to go, teachers will have to teach in class, or resign, or find a virtual option for them if they have enough seniority.
Again, as far as I know this is NOT an 'either/or' question, I have not heard of one single school district that is forcing all students enrolled in public schools to report for classroom instruction. In every case that I know of or have heard of, they are all planning options, both/and ... both/and ... both/and ... both and ... simultaneously.

If you know of a district that is forcing students to report for classroom instruction with no other option, please report.

Now, as for teachers, yes, that may be another matter. Hopefully they too will have an option to do virtual only in parallel with students who will have that option as well.

I know some districts have publicly sent out surveys to families to gauge their preferences. I imagine that some have also done in-house surveys of teachers. The results of these surveys may help to accommodate all preferences and calibrate policy according to changing circumstances.

Both/and ... both/and ... both/and .... both/and ... both/and ...
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