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Old 12-23-2020, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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As I said, the workload in grad school is much heavier than undergrad school (those replying here who haven't actually gone through grad school can't understand exactly how heavy it is).

Yep. It's not that the work is harder, per se, at least I didn't think so. It's that it is much more in-depth, and with many more expectations compressed into a shorter period of time, typically. Instead of "Have this chapter read by next week," it's "Have these books finished by the next time we meet, along with three scholarly sources you've located and analyzed that support or refute the claims made in the text, and be ready to present on them. You will also have a prospectus on the next paper due at that time."
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:24 AM
 
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Yes I have spoken to both my advisor and my professors (my advisor is one of my professors this semester). In fact, they reached out to check in on me, and I’ve told them everything. They understand that this virtual instruction is not my style of learning. To clear up the confusion about not getting grades back, I still have a few final assignments that weren’t graded. But at the moment I have two failing grades. I am not very confident about these final assignments though. I did my best on everything I did this semester, and my professors all know about my issues, but grad school is really hard and demands a lot out of you.
I get this, but an inability to collaborate is going to come back to bite you even after the pandemic is over. Even if you somehow manage to stay in the program, what are you going to do when you need to write your thesis and your professors are gone to conferences 25% of the time and unavailable another 25% of the time? Professors in academia are very busy these days and spend a lot of time chasing grant money. If you can't handle remote classes now, how would you be able to handle that?

I think you need to take a long, hard look at why you even want to continue in this situation. Maybe cut your losses?

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Old 12-23-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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OP, from your first post in this thread, it sounded like you had 2 FINAL course grades of F and thought you were going to get a 3rd. Now it sounds like those F's were just on ASSIGNMENTS, they were not course grades. That's pretty important info!!

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Yes I have spoken to both my advisor and my professors (my advisor is one of my professors this semester). In fact, they reached out to check in on me, and I’ve told them everything. They understand that this virtual instruction is not my style of learning. To clear up the confusion about not getting grades back, I still have a few final assignments that weren’t graded. But at the moment I have two failing grades. I am not very confident about these final assignments though. I did my best on everything I did this semester, and my professors all know about my issues, but grad school is really hard and demands a lot out of you.
So you have two failing grades ON ASSIGNMENTS. Were those failing grades in the SAME class or different ones? And what FEEDBACK did you get as to WHY you failed the assignments? Can you re-submit them or are the F's final?

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Also, these classes are synchronous. But that doesn’t mean it’s just like in-person instruction. It’s incredibly difficult to take classes online without the in-person support.
OP, I am still very puzzled by this, because at the college/grad school level, synchronous online classes can be VERY close to what you'd get in a physical classroom. I know, because I just taught them last semester, and the assignments, discussions, etc. were at least 95% the same as they would have been in person. Our classes met via Zoom during our regular days/times, and I had regular office hours (also via Zoom) during standard hours. I also meet with students one-on-one outside of office hours dozens of times over the semester -- it was actually EASIER to do that via Zoom as neither one of us had to be on campus but we could still see each other and talk.

So what exactly is the difference for you? If the classes were synchronous, how was the class time spent differently than it would have been in person? Or are your professors not available? (You said they reached out to you, so it seems like they WERE available.)


Can you please clarify further?
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Old 12-23-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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If you're going to kill yourself with "busy" work, take on debt, then you might as well acquire a marketable skill. A skill with a future.

While museums are neato, COVID has proved then "un necessary." (Many things we took for granted, have been re-assessed, recentlt.)

In my earlier post, I asked if you were in "BIO tech" due to your handle. Too bad you're not in bio-tech, as it's a career... not just a job. This is an industry that you can do, even with your metallic leg.

While museum stuff is your dream, is it going to pay your bills? (This is important, if you want to move out of your parent's attic.) You're in your mid 20's and you've already had a health scare.

Time to get with the program. Time's a wasting.

Regarding your grad work, you have let this beat you.

Here's a quote from a guy named FORD...

"If you think you can, or think you cannot, you're right."

Think about this quote. (I'm pretty sure Yoda has some similar quotes. Except his may be worded in reverse.)

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Old 12-23-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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"Museum Studies" - they'd be doing you a favor by chucking you out.
From the U.S. Department of Labor via the O*Net Online database:

25-402.00 - Curators
Projected Growth (2019-2029) Much faster than average (8% or higher)

25-4013.00 - Museum Technicians and Conservators
Projected Growth (2019-2029) Much faster than average (8% or higher)

Both require a Master's degree for more than an entry level position. The problem isn't with availability of employment in the field the OP wants to go into, it's with his ability to do the training required to get in.
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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OP~ There's a truth here.

OP~

Managing a museum is a "no where" job. Like being a docent, those jobs are for passionate volunteers. (Hey, they get free admission to the museum!)

If you're going to kill yourself with "busy" work, take on debt, then you might as well acquire a marketable skill. A skill with a future.

While museums are neato, COVID has proved then "un necessary." (Many things we took for granted, have been re-assessed, recentlt.)

In my earlier post, I asked if you were in "BIO tech" due to your handle. Too bad you're not in bio-tech, as it's a career... not just a job. This is an industry that you can do, even with your metallic leg.

While museum stuff is your dream, is it going to pay your bills? (This is important, if you want to move out of your parent's attic.) You're in your mid 20's and you've already had a health scare.

Time to get with the program. Time's a wasting.

Regarding your grad work, you have let this beat you.

Here's a quote from a guy named FORD...

"If you think you can, or think you cannot, you're right."

Think about this quote. (I'm pretty sure Yoda has some similar quotes. Except his may be worded in reverse.)
I'm afraid you're poorly informed. Running a museum isn't done by volunteers, that's ridiculous. Running a museum involves personnel management, writing grants if there's not a dedicated grant writer, and other fund-raising, public relations, coordinating with peer institutions including those in other countries (depending on the museum), and in the case of international exhibits, dealing with US Customs, and a lot of hard work putting together special exhibits. A high level of administrative skills is required.

Nothing has proved museum unnecessary. You seem to be suggesting, that museums throw away their priceless collections, or perhaps--auction them off.

Whether or not the OP would be able to get a job in a museum with his MA, assuming he were able to complete his program in good standing, is another matter. But museums are here to stay, and they need highly qualified specialists and administrators to run them.
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:15 AM
 
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OP~ There's a truth here.

OP~

Managing a museum is a "no where" job. Like being a docent, those jobs are for passionate volunteers. (Hey, they get free admission to the museum!)

If you're going to kill yourself with "busy" work, take on debt, then you might as well acquire a marketable skill. A skill with a future.

While museums are neato, COVID has proved then "un necessary." (Many things we took for granted, have been re-assessed, recentlt.)
A docent is not a manager.

And on whose "list" is a museum not necessary? Maybe not to the Coors Light crowd. I'd love to make my own list of what is necessary or not and I know where museums would fall on that.

and:

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Originally Posted by Vasily View Post
From the U.S. Department of Labor via the O*Net Online database:

25-402.00 - Curators
Projected Growth (2019-2029) Much faster than average (8% or higher)

25-4013.00 - Museum Technicians and Conservators
Projected Growth (2019-2029) Much faster than average (8% or higher)

Both require a Master's degree for more than an entry level position. The problem isn't with availability of employment in the field the OP wants to go into, it's with his ability to do the training required to get in.
Thank you for providing facts.
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Old 12-23-2020, 11:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Vasily View Post
From the U.S. Department of Labor via the O*Net Online database:

25-402.00 - Curators
Projected Growth (2019-2029) Much faster than average (8% or higher)

25-4013.00 - Museum Technicians and Conservators
Projected Growth (2019-2029) Much faster than average (8% or higher)

Both require a Master's degree for more than an entry level position. The problem isn't with availability of employment in the field the OP wants to go into, it's with his ability to do the training required to get in.

Pre-covid estimates but whatever. Both sound like positions where you will be required to be the source of support not the recipient.
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Old 12-23-2020, 12:01 PM
 
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I'm afraid you're poorly informed. Running a museum isn't done by volunteers, that's ridiculous. Running a museum involves personnel management, writing grants if there's not a dedicated grant writer, and other fund-raising, public relations, coordinating with peer institutions including those in other countries (depending on the museum), and in the case of international exhibits, dealing with US Customs, and a lot of hard work putting together special exhibits. A high level of administrative skills is required.

Sounds like a list of skills the OP lacks. Sounds like a position where you ahve to grab the bull by the horns and find solutions to challenges not make excuses.
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