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Old 07-16-2023, 07:37 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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As opposed to dishonest work like being a drug dealer or what?
Financial aid counselor ? (i.e. evil loan shark)
Career placement specialist? (doctoring the placement numbers / filling your quota to keep the tuition revenue flowing with new students looking for the 'golden (Yellow) brick road')
USA public School administrator? (positioning student, faculty, facilities for greatest personal gain i.e. job security vs. astute asset and resource management)

Many jobs have elements of 'corruption', whether you personaly choose to exploit that avenue or not is your option.

Even 'skilled trades'... auto / applicance mechanics illustrate that often. Some construction companies have been known to intentionally reduce time, material, and cost of a project to fill the bonuses of senior management. Bridges collapse, equipment fails, people get hurt (or killed).

A 'Full Service' fuel attendent often makes referrals for auto service / tires ... some of those suggestions may save your life, others may not be legitimate and prey upon the customers. I haven't seen a fuel attendent under my hood (bonnet) or checking out my tires for 40+ yrs. YSMV
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Old 07-16-2023, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Financial aid counselor ? (i.e. evil loan shark)
Career placement specialist? (doctoring the placement numbers / filling your quota to keep the tuition revenue flowing with new students looking for the 'golden (Yellow) brick road')
USA public School administrator? (positioning student, faculty, facilities for greatest personal gain i.e. job security vs. astute asset and resource management)

Many jobs have elements of 'corruption', whether you personaly choose to exploit that avenue or not is your option.

Even 'skilled trades'... auto / applicance mechanics illustrate that often. Some construction companies have been known to intentionally reduce time, material, and cost of a project to fill the bonuses of senior management. Bridges collapse, equipment fails, people get hurt (or killed).

A 'Full Service' fuel attendent often makes referrals for auto service / tires ... some of those suggestions may save your life, others may not be legitimate and prey upon the customers. I haven't seen a fuel attendent under my hood (bonnet) or checking out my tires for 40+ yrs. YSMV
A lot of that post is akin to conspiracy thinking.
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Old 07-16-2023, 08:17 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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A lot of that post is akin to conspiracy thinking.
or... living in reality.

I'm far from a conspiritist, but very aware of the reality of operational life events.

My readers are intelligent and informed enough to also be discerning. (of reality).

A Very good thing to be equiped for...
"If the trades are such great jobs, then why isn’t trade school more heavily promoted ?"

Aparently school loans were also heavily promoted ?"

Be wise, know your sources and advice (well).

ONE person is appropriately concerned about your future and your finances.

Educational choice (?) is very ripe for poor guidance. Intentional, or not. But certainly ill informed guidance is rampant.
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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or... living in reality.

I'm far from a conspiritist, but very aware of the reality of operational life events.

My readers are intelligent and informed enough to also be discerning. (of reality).

A Very good thing to be equiped for...
"If the trades are such great jobs, then why isn’t trade school more heavily promoted ?"

Aparently school loans were also heavily promoted ?"

Be wise, know your sources and advice (well).

ONE person is appropriately concerned about your future and your finances.

Educational choice (?) is very ripe for poor guidance. Intentional, or not. But certainly ill informed guidance is rampant.
"your readers"?
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Old 07-16-2023, 10:59 PM
 
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Do you want to it for 50 years?
Did a little along the way, but not much. Self-service was already growing by the time I graduated high school. But in that era, I knew several people who did work at service stations. They didn't just pump gas but worked on cars and a few drove tow trucks. Pumping gas was just one of the tasks that came with it. So yes, if I had been a car guy back then who loved working them, then pumping gas would just have been part of the job. Had a couple friends in high school who were good at it, but I wasn't interested in being a mechanic, so I went a different path. Of course, now days the old service station is gone.

Just so you can know, a few other what you consider menial jobs I did growing up included working with my dad when a ran a garbage truck. As well as helping him paint propane tanks for extra money. Did a little bit of burgers during high school. But mostly working on what was left of what had been the farm. You know what I dreamed about going around and around cutting the pasture? That how cool it would be to do that at a place like Biltmore or Disneyworld where people would think what beautiful lawns and gardens.

Of course there is only so much time in life to pick things you want to do and you can't do all of them. I'll have to be satisfied with my lawn and garden. But when I'm on the mower I can still pretend. Hey, I'm not the Verger at St Peters at least.
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Old 07-16-2023, 11:37 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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...You know what I dreamed about going around and around cutting the pasture? That how cool it would be to do that at a place like Biltmore or Disneyworld where people would think what beautiful lawns and gardens.

... But when I'm on the mower I can still pretend. ...
How about grounds maint for Dollywood?
https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/20...-free-college/

Full tuition for college (again) as a perk!

Old folks can go to college (or trade school) too.

Dolly Parton, the rhinestone-covered songbird recently nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, adds to her philanthropic track record with a new free college program for employees of her Tennessee amusement park, Dollywood. Starting Feb. 24, seasonal, part-, and full-time employees at Dollywood are eligible for free college from their first day of work.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301477917.html


Currently I'm studying "The Stoneworker's Bible", in hopes I can build my own stone retirement lodge and a few arched bridges!
I should have apprenticed with my FIL, fortunately my spouse served many yrs as a hod carrier for dad.
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Old 07-17-2023, 05:22 AM
 
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A. What's wrong with pumping gas? It's honest work.

and

B. Other than New Jersey, where can you find a full service gas pump now days?
NJ somehow made it mandatory...........In my opinion if you aren't bright enough to pump your own gas then maybe you aren't bright enough to drive a car!

Europe is full of full service gas stations.
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Old 07-17-2023, 05:51 AM
 
Location: western NY
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NJ somehow made it mandatory...........In my opinion if you aren't bright enough to pump your own gas then maybe you aren't bright enough to drive a car!
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Old 07-17-2023, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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While it’s not a state law, as in NJ, the gas stations in the bougie areas of CT are full service. NY, too.
All over the northeast there are full service pumps, most are rural areas and other decidedly not bourgeoise areas.
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Old 07-17-2023, 06:48 AM
 
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How about grounds maint for Dollywood?
https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/20...-free-college/

Full tuition for college (again) as a perk!

Old folks can go to college (or trade school) too.

Dolly Parton, the rhinestone-covered songbird recently nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, adds to her philanthropic track record with a new free college program for employees of her Tennessee amusement park, Dollywood. Starting Feb. 24, seasonal, part-, and full-time employees at Dollywood are eligible for free college from their first day of work.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301477917.html


Currently I'm studying "The Stoneworker's Bible", in hopes I can build my own stone retirement lodge and a few arched bridges!
I should have apprenticed with my FIL, fortunately my spouse served many yrs as a hod carrier for dad.
Had all the stonework I wanted years ago. Painting rocks white, raking sand, and such to pay for my free college.
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