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Old 06-04-2022, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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It doesn't take math to draw a picture of a building.

I worked with architects and engineers. An engineer said that one as a joke. But seriously, an engineer needs math far more than an architect.

I did not finish college because I could not pass the basic math/algebra class. I paid for a non-credit remedial class for a semester. Failed that.

I had no student loans, thought.
Architects certainly require math - they are required to sign off on designs stating that they meet requirements which involves sizing beams and load calculations. May not mean much on a basic house but certainly does on a larger building. I was originally in an architecture program before switching to engineering - a lot of the math was much the same for both.
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Old 06-04-2022, 12:54 PM
 
Location: equator
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algebra is basic math.
it doesn't get any more basic.
what job doesn't require algebra?
Life requires algebra
Not every life. I am mathematically-impaired and yet ran a commercial printing co. with my partner who I never saw doing any math. Then we went on to build houses. I never saw him do any algebra.

I believe there is math-dyslexia just like with words. We forge ahead in life anyway. In school, I got mostly As but failed math, even with tutors. It does close doors to many occupations but there are still opportunities.

No fancy degrees but no student debt either.
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Old 06-04-2022, 02:16 PM
 
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He's very fortunate. That's not the case for many doctors. All don't go into specialities with a high income. So work in rural areas. Some don't go into the higher paying specialities.
In one sense yes. The landscape for young ER docs is tough right now.

Your direct point has merit but no as much as you imply. Many docs. who set up shop in rural areas do so with large chunks of debt forgiven or paid by local and state interests.

A few rural docs. set up shop without completing formal residencies by working under existing docs or other means of supervision. IOW their residency is via OJT, mostly anyway. This path has been popular with foreign medical graduates the last few years.
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Old 06-04-2022, 02:37 PM
 
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Not every life. I am mathematically-impaired and yet ran a commercial printing co. with my partner who I never saw doing any math. Then we went on to build houses. I never saw him do any algebra.

I believe there is math-dyslexia just like with words. We forge ahead in life anyway. In school, I got mostly As but failed math, even with tutors. It does close doors to many occupations but there are still opportunities.

No fancy degrees but no student debt either.
Dyscalculia is a legit and fairly well understood math related learning disability.
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Old 06-04-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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Dyscalculia is a legit and fairly well understood math related learning disability.
I think a lot more people just got a bad foundation in arithmetic in elementary school.
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Old 06-04-2022, 03:52 PM
 
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I agree with the issues of printing money - sometimes it feel like Weimar Germany 2.0 with bad monetary policies.

However, the $5.8 billion owned is different. The US government should have regulated this industry better and prevented this disaster.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/01/b...rgiveness.html

Still, cleaning up after a mess which could be prevented is lousy policy.
The US government is a full partner in the education racket.
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Old 06-04-2022, 04:03 PM
 
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I think a lot more people just got a bad foundation in arithmetic in elementary school.
I agree with you.
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Old 06-04-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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I think a lot more people just got a bad foundation in arithmetic in elementary school.
Absolutely. And in science. And history. And geography. And Language Arts which my kid's school called it.
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Old 06-05-2022, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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The US government is a full partner in the education racket.
That's the sad reality of the situation. If you want to talk about a swamp, this is it.

NEITHER those profiting off the backs of students in the education racket nor the politicians give 2 hoots about helping anyone, but themselves.
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Old 06-05-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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Not every life. I am mathematically-impaired and yet ran a commercial printing co. with my partner who I never saw doing any math. Then we went on to build houses. I never saw him do any algebra.

I believe there is math-dyslexia just like with words. We forge ahead in life anyway. In school, I got mostly As but failed math, even with tutors. It does close doors to many occupations but there are still opportunities.

No fancy degrees but no student debt either.
People think algebra and think a + b = c

Algebra is more than that and if we were to nitpick every decision you made running that printing co and building houses, I’d guarantee the majority of your decisions involved algebra
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