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Old 11-14-2022, 08:58 PM
 
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This doesn't address my point. Most of these activities go on without anyone doing any algebra in carrying them out. People go their whole lives from preschool through adulthood throwing balls without doing any math in the process. I've hung lots of picture frames, and never done any math to complete the task.
Sorry Ruth you are straight up wrong on this one. There is a big difference between applying an algebraic concept and being able to explain the problem on paper via algebra.
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:11 AM
 
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Sorry Ruth you are straight up wrong on this one. There is a big difference between applying an algebraic concept and being able to explain the problem on paper via algebra.
I'm with Ruth (and probably a whole lot of folks). The linked paper suggests that you're unconciously using algebraic concepts if you use math to do anything, even the most basic 2nd grade multiplication and division involved with halving a recipe. A bit over the top, me thinks.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:56 AM
 
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Sorry Ruth you are straight up wrong on this one. There is a big difference between applying an algebraic concept and being able to explain the problem on paper via algebra.
I don't apply any algebraic concepts when I throw a ball or hang a picture frame. All the first-graders out there playing "catch" don't apply algebraic concepts when they're playing.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:38 AM
 
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This is kind of like the "Cooking is Chemistry" discussion.
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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I don't apply any algebraic concepts when I throw a ball or hang a picture frame. All the first-graders out there playing "catch" don't apply algebraic concepts when they're playing.
If you are throwing a ball with intent at or towards a specific location or via a specific path or both you are.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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Mathematics is a tool, just like a socket wrench set. Why are those of you with math fright so eager to take away some kid's 3/8" wrench before he even has a chance to find out whether he needs it?
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:44 AM
 
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If you are throwing a ball with intent at or towards a specific location or via a specific path or both you are.
A lot of first-graders and pre-schoolers can't even spell "algebra", let alone actually apply any of its concepts to playtime activities. If it were that easy, we'd all ace highschool algebra.
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:06 AM
 
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If you are throwing a ball with intent at or towards a specific location or via a specific path or both you are.
Are you skipping 'algebraic concepts' as they relate to physics?? Either way, I'm with Ruth again. It's utterly ridiculous to suggest that a 4 year old throwing a ball to daddy is even remotely aware of either. And as a former 4 year old, I can assure you that my dad never mentioned it.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:44 PM
 
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A lot of first-graders and pre-schoolers can't even spell "algebra", let alone actually apply any of its concepts to playtime activities. If it were that easy, we'd all ace highschool algebra.
And that is utterly not the point.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:46 PM
 
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Are you skipping 'algebraic concepts' as they relate to physics?? Either way, I'm with Ruth again. It's utterly ridiculous to suggest that a 4 year old throwing a ball to daddy is even remotely aware of either. And as a former 4 year old, I can assure you that my dad never mentioned it.
Being aware of algebra isn't required to leverage key concepts within algebra.
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