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The idea that you can divorce politics from history is interesting, because history is inherently political. Which politicians are elected, and the decisions that they make and the laws that they enforce and pass is political. Appointment of judges and Supreme Court justices is political, which affects how they interpret laws. How and when non-white male American citizens got the right to vote was political. State borders and how territory was divided was political. Even the fact that slavery wasn't abolished in the Bill of Rights was political. You can't possibly teach American history without factoring in political decisions.
Let's please keep attaching the posts to education.
What is teaching opposing points of view look like when discussing issue of human rights? Is there another side to racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, misogyny? In the 21st century, it's okay to teach that those things are wrong, and in history classes to discuss that our country made decisions and passed and enforced laws that were unfair at best, and damaging at worst. Teaching students that America is the best country in the world and never did anything wrong in its entire history is just propaganda and indoctrination waving a flag.
Governments and people taught in history class should not be judged by the morals of today. They should be judged by the era in which they or those events took place. Did this country have slavery and laws that discriminated against a segment of the population,…yes. But such practices were not exclusive to USA nor did they begin with the nation’s founding. The founders did good things. However it seems todays educators only want to focus on the negative.
Governments and people taught in history class should not be judged by the morals of today. They should be judged by the era in which they or those events took place. Did this country have slavery and laws that discriminated against a segment of the population,…yes. But such practices were not exclusive to USA nor did they begin with the nation’s founding. The founders did good things. However it seems todays educators only want to focus on the negative.
And, the founders knew they had figured it all out, and that's why they worked to "form a more perfect union". But I don't think it's appropriate to teach children that slavery was EVER moral.
What can we expect from CNN and a state teachers association? Obviously they want these kids back in public schools, where the revenues can be added to the pay for union teachers and school board members who promote CRT, LGBTQ, and transgender ideology.
Heaven forbid if even ONE child is educated without being indoctrinated. Good for Ohio parents, who have learned to vote with their feet and their wallets!
Indoctrination like being allowed to read banned books or not being taught about the holocaust or other historical nightmares? The Civil lRights movement. Books about a black baseball player or Huckleberry Finn, books about black people, slavery, gays, the holocaust, etc.
OMG! What a horrible type of "indoctrination"! Talking about the truth of our history, and how people of color or gays have a tougher time of it than us heterosexual white folks.
CRT...
Do you know what it is? Here is a good explanation:
It's an academic program that looks at the way policies and laws uphold systemic racism. [/i]
Yes, that is a reality. But...
It is NOT taught in grade schools or high schools.
The right wingers have given it a new connotation, saying it teaches children to believe they are inherently racist. Not true. Though many or most of those people against CRT, ARE.
What is "systemic" racism?
Well for one, it is redlining.
What is redlining?
Redlining is a discriminatory practice in which services are withheld from potential customers who reside in neighborhoods that are not considered safe for businesses, etc.
Then there are systemic things like how police stop people for "driving while black", that type of prejudice and discrimination. Police unduly shooting black people.
Better we pretend that doesn't exist?
Systemic racism exists and if you were on the wrong end of it, you would want to do something about it.
But of course, YOU are not.
Oh! And let's not forget the evils of children being exposed to drag shows or men in drag or anything gay.
When I was young I saw those horrible tv shows and movies with Jack Lemmon, Robin Williams (Mrs. Doubtfire), etc... and tv shows like Bosom Buddies where Tom Hanks dressed as a woman! And of course MASH's "Klinger"!
Governments and people taught in history class should not be judged by the morals of today. They should be judged by the era in which they or those events took place. Did this country have slavery and laws that discriminated against a segment of the population,…yes. But such practices were not exclusive to USA nor did they begin with the nation’s founding. The founders did good things. However it seems todays educators only want to focus on the negative.
No one is focusing on the negative in schools. What we are talking about is simply teaching history. Real history. Facts.
Negative events in history are a portion of the reality.
Nazism for example.
Slavery.
Dropping the A bomb on Japan.
Genocide in the Americas and other parts of the world.
The Viet Nam war...
etc.
So these realities of history should not be taught?
And we should ban books about them too?
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
(Like the fascism my dad fought in WWII and is now about to happen here.)
Better we teach the realities of history and learn from them!
QUESTION:
Do you think critical thinking should be taught in schools?
What is critical thinking?
It is:
1clarify your thinking purpose and context
2 question your sources of information
3 identify arguments
4 analyze sources and arguments
5 evaluate the arguments of others and
6 create or synthesize your own arguments.
It is basically the teaching of how to THINK in a critical, questioning manner. A way to discover what truth is.
And, the founders knew they had figured it all out, and that's why they worked to "form a more perfect union". But I don't think it's appropriate to teach children that slavery was EVER moral.
That should have read: And, the founders knew they had Not figured it all out...
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And, the founders knew they had figured it all out, and that's why they worked to "form a more perfect union". But I don't think it's appropriate to teach children that slavery was EVER moral.
and 'public school teachers now influence and instruct in morality?'
Hope not.
Seems that might be OP's point (morality), but USA public edu is the antonym of instruction in morality.
Moral and values are not the instructional duty of academic information.
Teach the students to learn, investigate, collect thorough information. It's not the educators role (or capability) to interpret and 'convince' the 'morality' of that information and the evaluation process.
Please NO! Maybe that's why public schooled kids sit on their hands and wait for instruction (the rest of their life). They were not taught, or allowed to THINK and REASON!
Morales are not formed in the classroom. (unfortunate news to the NEA, don't tell them)
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