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Old 07-18-2023, 04:44 AM
 
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Focussing on the bigger picture, has public education's adaptation of Apple been good, bad, or mixed? Share your experiences.
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Old 07-18-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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Focussing on the bigger picture, has public education's adaptation of Apple been good, bad, or mixed? Share your experiences.
As opposed to what, Microsoft? Bad either way.

It's an open secret that wealthy tech barons send their kids to private schools that don't shove screens in their faces.

https://kidlogger.net/blog/school-wi...nally%2C%20mud.
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Old 07-18-2023, 10:39 AM
 
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As opposed to what, Microsoft? Bad either way.

It's an open secret that wealthy tech barons send their kids to private schools that don't shove screens in their faces.

https://kidlogger.net/blog/school-wi...nally%2C%20mud.
well those private school kids certainty have high tech devices, much of it apple. Nothing wrong in using computers for educational purposes. more constructive then kids on their phones or watching tic toc etc.
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Old 07-18-2023, 11:10 AM
 
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well those private school kids certainty have high tech devices, much of it apple. Nothing wrong in using computers for educational purposes. more constructive then kids on their phones or watching tic toc etc.
I think you missed the point. Wealthy, married, and well-educated executives in Silicon Valley send their kids to a private school that pointedly omits technology from the curriculum. At least in the elementary grades.

The parents may allow the kids to have devices at home, but they don't use them in school.

(partially paywalled NYT article linked below)
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/t...-can-wait.html
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Old 07-18-2023, 02:13 PM
 
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Notice I did say public.

I came to the education sector from the business world in the 90s, a big user of WinTel with some advanced training under my belt. Some of the poorest school districts had received grants for computers. Most of the desktops were a self contained Apple..some were even running Windows on their Macs. I recalled an attorney friend saying..if you want to get something done; use Apple. After a while, I agreed with him. Windows was a bug fest until Win 98 second edition. By that time, I had seen large amounts of money wasted on Windows, but it was pretty simple to build a PC for a few hundred bucks. Then, I started watching Scott McNeely, talking about Thin Client computing,, using RISC chips, which became one of Sun Microsystems trademarks. It made perfect sense, but most of my coworkers hadn't heard of it, and everything sounded geeky.

So 25 years later, I don't think Apple or MS won the battle, but there is a lot more obsolete Apple junk populating the school districts. And let's not forget the social problems caused by peer pressure to own an expensive phone, in student populations that are almost entirely on free lunch.
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Old 07-18-2023, 02:34 PM
 
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Our kids' school district didn't go Apple. Pretty much Windows & Office to start with. Then about the time they hit middle school, the district made a big push for Chromebooks. They had this fantasy of no textbooks; every student issued a Chromebook. With all the lessons developed by the teachers and loaded on the Chromebooks. Ran into a lot of problems, not the least of which was the teachers didn't want to spend their weekends and summers writing digital textbooks just because the district didn't want to pay for them (One of the big costs that wasn't included in the decision to go fully digital -- they assumed teachers would write the text for free). Then there were the kids who accidently broke the computers. And, even bigger, the kids who deliberately broke them. The school did try to collect from the parents, but naturally the kids who broke them were also the families who were on free lunch and everything else. Can't get blood from a turnip.

In the end, wound up with a mix of regular textbooks; Chromebooks for homework; and those who had access to computers brought their own.
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Old 07-18-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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Our kids' school district didn't go Apple. Pretty much Windows & Office to start with. Then about the time they hit middle school, the district made a big push for Chromebooks. They had this fantasy of no textbooks; every student issued a Chromebook. With all the lessons developed by the teachers and loaded on the Chromebooks. Ran into a lot of problems, not the least of which was the teachers didn't want to spend their weekends and summers writing digital textbooks just because the district didn't want to pay for them (One of the big costs that wasn't included in the decision to go fully digital -- they assumed teachers would write the text for free). Then there were the kids who accidently broke the computers. And, even bigger, the kids who deliberately broke them. The school did try to collect from the parents, but naturally the kids who broke them were also the families who were on free lunch and everything else. Can't get blood from a turnip.

In the end, wound up with a mix of regular textbooks; Chromebooks for homework; and those who had access to computers brought their own.
I was in a district where kids/parents would show up Monday morning with a police report that the kid's Chromebook got "stolen". One particular student had his stolen 6 times while in Middle School (6-7-8).
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Old 07-18-2023, 02:50 PM
 
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I'll let you draw your own conclusions from what I write.

Apple is one of the three main companies that have successfully monetized public education for themselves. Pearson Education developing tests (and selling textbooks tied to those tests) taken on Apple computers using Microsoft programs.
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Old 07-18-2023, 05:59 PM
 
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i dont understand the question. arent chromebooks manufactured by h.p./samsung/acer/lenovo/... with the o.s. written by google.

or is o.p. saying that during the pandemic most sckool districts were distributing more macbooks than chromebooks ?

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Old 07-18-2023, 07:46 PM
 
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I think you missed the point. Wealthy, married, and well-educated executives in Silicon Valley send their kids to a private school that pointedly omits technology from the curriculum. At least in the elementary grades.

The parents may allow the kids to have devices at home, but they don't use them in school.

(partially paywalled NYT article linked below)
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/t...-can-wait.html
why would you care what they do? my children went to private school too. Different parents believe in different ways of educating their children. I always did what I thought best for mine. thats the only piece that counts.
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