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Old 09-22-2023, 09:33 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Hmm. That kind of goes against the idea of being underfunded then. Sounds like you had an adequate budget, good student body, and parents with good expectations.
I worked for FCPS- funding was never an issue. Some of those schools had less than 1% free and reduced lunch rates.
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Hmm. That kind of goes against the idea of being underfunded then. Sounds like you had an adequate budget, good student body, and parents with good expectations.
Diffferent people would see it different ways. I hated that we had to have an annual fundraiser to get things the school needed. And by the way -- those things purchased through the fundraiser were usually things the parent community was demanding. Or do you not believe schools should listen to the parent community?
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I worked for FCPS- funding was never an issue. Some of those schools had less than 1% free and reduced lunch rates.
As of October 2022, about 34% of students in FCPS qualified for free and reduced-price meals. And at my school it varied by year from about 5%-9%. And so some years we had as many as about 100 students on free and reduced lunch.
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:11 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Hmm. That kind of goes against the idea of being underfunded then. Sounds like you had an adequate budget, good student body, and parents with good expectations.
With schools, as in most things in life, you have "must haves" and "nice to haves". Where the problem starts is when you don't have enough funding for "must haves" (copy paper, cleaning supplies, textbooks, etc.) and you get orders to use the limited School Operating Resouces for the "nice to haves". Those "nice to haves" could be Chromebooks or class offerings or somebody's mistress who needs a job.
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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With schools, as in most things in life, you have "must haves" and "nice to haves". Where the problem starts is when you don't have enough funding for "must haves" (copy paper, cleaning supplies, textbooks, etc.) and you get orders to use the limited School Operating Resouces for the "nice to haves". Those "nice to haves" could be Chromebooks or class offerings or somebody's mistress who needs a job.
I'll give an example of that.

Our PTA pushed for us to purchase a 'classroom set' of all textbooks so that students could have their assigned text at home, but use a 'classroom text' in school. Obviously, we didn't have tax payer funds for that, so the parents went through the school to have a multi-year fund raiser. We finally fulfilled what the parents wanted, and I have to admit it was a wise decision. Textbooks lasted more years than they had ever lasted before since there was far less wear and tear on the books, and very few books were ever lost. But, it was one of those "nice to haves". But...it wasn't the school's idea; the idea came from the parents.
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Old 09-22-2023, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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... Obviously, we didn't have tax payer funds for that, so the parents went through the school to have a multi-year fund raiser...
Sounds like your school had very involved parents, probably mostly 2-parent households (dare I say high-earning?). You've characterized your school as having "often limited resources" but it's amazing what dedicated parents can do not only for their own children, but for future classes.
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Sounds like your school had very involved parents, probably mostly 2-parent households (dare I say high-earning?). You've characterized your school as having "often limited resources" but it's amazing what dedicated parents can do not only for their own children, but for future classes.
That varied from richest of the rich to one apartment neighborhood along US-29 where the kids would say, "Mr. Victor, don't ever come over here at night. The drug dealers would shoot a white guy".

Yes, parents can do a lot, but take our same school without the rich parent group and things would have been much different.
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Old 09-22-2023, 01:32 PM
 
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With schools, as in most things in life, you have "must haves" and "nice to haves". Where the problem starts is when you don't have enough funding for "must haves" (copy paper, cleaning supplies, textbooks, etc.) and you get orders to use the limited School Operating Resouces for the "nice to haves". Those "nice to haves" could be Chromebooks or class offerings or somebody's mistress who needs a job.
I think you and I have spent enough time in bureaucracies to know how the "nice to haves" often get funded while the "must haves" get unfunded. You've probably seen the budget strategy where they fund the "nice to haves" and then present the funding source with no choice but to find extra money to fund the essentials. Back door way to force a budget increase and fund pet projects (or mistresses).
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Old 09-22-2023, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I think you and I have spent enough time in bureaucracies to know how the "nice to haves" often get funded while the "must haves" get unfunded. You've probably seen the budget strategy where they fund the "nice to haves" and then present the funding source with no choice but to find extra money to fund the essentials. Back door way to force a budget increase and fund pet projects (or mistresses).
If school budgets weren't usually the only governmental budgets where the taxpayers vote, we wouldn't have to play those games.
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Old 09-22-2023, 03:36 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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As of October 2022, about 34% of students in FCPS qualified for free and reduced-price meals. And at my school it varied by year from about 5%-9%. And so some years we had as many as about 100 students on free and reduced lunch.
Dude…… again, no school in FCPS is hurting for resources. Those numbers you just threw out are proof of that. School I’m at this year, 87% FRL. We consider ourselves very lucky most of ours are reduced, as opposed to free.
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