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Old 11-09-2023, 11:58 AM
 
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Then teachers can wear bodycams like cops and each room should have (many) emergency buttons or similar. They can also wear emergency buttons like a nursing home. No need for a device that can communicate for pleasure or boredom.
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Old 11-09-2023, 06:00 PM
 
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Why is it "hard"? Some kid might get mad at you?
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Old 11-09-2023, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Why is it "hard"? Some kid might get mad at you?
It's hard in the same way that enforcing Prohibition and the 55 mph speed limit was hard: because vast majorities are opposed to it. Banning alcohol consumption and speeding are objectively good things (just consider the thousands of people who are killed and maimed by drunk drivers and speeders every year), but the effort failed because the public wants its booze and fast driving. Well, the public wants its phones too. Not just the kids, but their parents too.
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Old 11-09-2023, 06:19 PM
 
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So "mob rule"? Seems to me the school can make its own rules without the majority of kids OR parents agreeing with it, but I haven't read the whole thread.
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Old 11-09-2023, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It's hard in the same way that enforcing Prohibition and the 55 mph speed limit was hard: because vast majorities are opposed to it. Banning alcohol consumption and speeding are objectively good things (just consider the thousands of people who are killed and maimed by drunk drivers and speeders every year), but the effort failed because the public wants its booze and fast driving. Well, the public wants its phones too. Not just the kids, but their parents too.
You're right.

Back in the stone age, we had a "no cell phones" policy. We could fight the kids wanting phones. But soon the parents wanted their kids to be able to have a phone for emergencies, and even more so for walkers. Never mind that kids existed in school for centuries without cell phones! Finally we realized we were fighting a losing battle. So kids could bring phones to school AND put them in their lockers (except during lunch).


I didn't like it. But times have changed.
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Old 11-10-2023, 07:12 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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All classrooms should be required to have monitoring cameras.

All teachers should be required to wear body cams.

No cell phones should be allowed in classrooms.
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Old 11-10-2023, 07:16 AM
 
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Everyone's addicted to them - children AND parents. Of course if you ASK an addict if they want to give up their substance of choice, they're going to say no, they need it for whatever reason. D'oh...
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:03 AM
 
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No wonder the high school kids we hire can't put their phones down. I didn't realize the phones were allowed in the classroom.

But I do see how they would be useful for proof in a bad situation or in an emergency.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No wonder the high school kids we hire can't put their phones down. I didn't realize the phones were allowed in the classroom.

But I do see how they would be useful for proof in a bad situation or in an emergency.
And an awfully lot of adults.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:08 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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This has been an ongoing battle since phones became something everyone has.

It was a constant battle that wasn't helped by inconsistent enforcement.

Our rule was to confiscate the phone (yeah, that's gonna happen with some kids. Remember the ongoing discussions about discipline policy) and send it to the students Administrator. Easy and simple, right?

Well, no. Administrators would refuse to accept the phone.

Also, remember calculators? Schools have discovered they don't have to supply class sets of them because phones have them.
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