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Old 11-12-2023, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Thank you. Let me clarify what I was trying to say by "the result will be reflected in the grade." I wasn't thinking in disciplinary terms, but if someone is goofing off instead of paying attention, then their grade will naturally suffer. Or they really did understand the material and get an "A" in which case it's better that they are keeping themselves occupied on the phone rather than finding other, more disruptive, ways to occupy themselves.
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Old 11-13-2023, 07:55 AM
 
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So we should sacrifice ALL the kid's education for an emergency? I don't support phones in schools. I do support body cams on teachers. Why should cops have to wear them and not teachers?
I would rather have cameras in the classroom, not bodycams on the teacher.
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Old 11-13-2023, 08:27 AM
 
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A lot of retail workplaces have a check in process that requires you turn in your mobile phone before work begins as a time in process. You're not allowed to keep that phone on you while working. If your loved ones need to find you they can call the work number. Schools can do the same, kids do not need a phone on them during classes. I've never had one when I went to school and everything is fine.
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Old 11-13-2023, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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So we should sacrifice ALL the kid's education for an emergency? I don't support phones in schools. I do support body cams on teachers. Why should cops have to wear them and not teachers?

Well at one point in history we didn't have cell phones.

If there was an emergency at home then a phone call was made to the school office and you got called down to the office.

Life worked before cell phones.

What I did see though were parents calling their kid in the middle of the morning asking them what they wanted for lunch...McDonalds or Dairy Queen.
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Old 11-13-2023, 08:52 AM
 
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Well at one point in history we didn't have cell phones.

If there was an emergency at home then a phone call was made to the school office and you got called down to the office.

Life worked before cell phones.

What I did see though were parents calling their kid in the middle of the morning asking them what they wanted for lunch...McDonalds or Dairy Queen.
Amazing, huh?

In a few short years, however, the collective memory of "life before phones" will be gone.

Not only do younger people have no living memory of it, most older people who are addicted to them seem to be experiencing amnesia!
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Old 11-13-2023, 08:59 AM
 
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Amazing, huh?

In a few short years, however, the collective memory of "life before phones" will be gone.

Not only do younger people have no living memory of it, most older people who are addicted to them seem to be experiencing amnesia!
There was a time when we didn't have air conditioning, or heating, or refrigeration, or the only transportation was on foot.

We don't live in those times.
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Old 11-13-2023, 10:38 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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There was a time when we didn't have air conditioning, or heating, or refrigeration, or the only transportation was on foot.

We don't live in those times.
Not having cell phones though is recent history...within the last 20 years.
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Old 11-13-2023, 12:33 PM
 
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Not having cell phones though is recent history...within the last 20 years.
OK. Regardless, we've moved on. Parents have moved on. Punish the behaviors if needed. Punish those who exhibit bad behavior, not everyone because someone might do something. If someone learns the subject and isn't bothering anyone else, what difference does it make if they are texting on their phone or sitting their bored out of their mind so long as they aren't disturbing anyone else?

If they have the phone out talking, well isn't that already an issue, regardless of phone? If they are playing a game beeping and booping and making noise, is that any different than playing football with a piece of paper and disturbing others? What can they do with a phone that disturbs the class that isn't already covered under another rule. Perhaps just enforce the rules that matter rather than making up more rules to enforce.
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Old 11-13-2023, 12:39 PM
 
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Do you assume everyone was "bored out of their minds" before cell phones? Heaven forbid they should just sit with their thoughts for two seconds!
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Old 11-13-2023, 12:47 PM
 
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If the phones in school could only be used for making calls and recording video and did not have internet that would be a perfect compromise. We need to normalize a different kind of phone that does not have internet or apps. I guess Gabb Phone is one such product. And we need to make it shameful and culturally unacceptable for parents to give their kids unrestricted, unsupervised access to internet and social media. There is no reason a kid needs to have the same type of phone an adult has.
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