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Old 11-18-2023, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Originally Posted by tnff View Post
Can anyone read the article?
Sorry, we're all products of the public education system!

Want to fix the schools? Get the social engineering OUT.

Maybe a "voucher" program to let the parents choose which school to enroll their spawn.

A little "competition" never hurt anyone/anything.

How can we lose? Well....

The rest of the (un)developed countries are teaching trig/calc & civics, and the USA schools are trying to

figure out which are girls and which are boys.

We don't knock this crap off soon, we're going to be a 3rd world country. (We may become this anyway, but it'll be a lot easier with "stupid people" as the majority population.)

 
Old 11-18-2023, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ View Post
Sorry, we're all products of the public education system!

Want to fix the schools? Get the social engineering OUT.

Maybe a "voucher" program to let the parents choose which school to enroll their spawn.

A little "competition" never hurt anyone/anything.

How can we lose? Well....

The rest of the (un)developed countries are teaching trig/calc & civics, and the USA schools are trying to

figure out which are girls and which are boys.

We don't knock this crap off soon, we're going to be a 3rd world country. (We may become this anyway, but it'll be a lot easier with "stupid people" as the majority population.)
You obviously missed the point that "the competition" to public education isn't really doing much better.
 
Old 11-19-2023, 08:15 AM
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Location: ^##
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
You obviously missed the point that "the competition" to public education isn't really doing much better.
Arizona charter schools are a very small sampling of that.
Arizona isn’t known for great education, so it would take a lot to overcome that.
Thinking outside the stifling box of state-run schools is a good start. No reason to double down on failure.

Private schools, even low-cost religious ones, often outperform public schools by a pretty good margin.
Good things happen when parents are more likely to be involved and the schools aren’t beholden to the nonsensical whims of governments or society at large.
 
Old 11-19-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
that's called college
that's called certification
that's called evaluation
All of the above does not equal academic delivery, especially if evaluations are done internally

Once stuck inside USA academia, a brighter future is illusive
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
You obviously missed the point that "the competition" to public education isn't really doing much better.
There is no competition to USA public education (nor is there competition within USA public education.) Keep everyone dumb, and your pension is safe!

Americans are very easy to fool, and control.

Our enemies know that.
Our primary enemies are within. And doing very well
 
Old 11-19-2023, 08:31 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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. Want to fix the schools? Get the social engineering OUT.

That may take a reboot.

As in giving the boot to those on control.

We have a virus within, and it feeds upon itself.

The irony is thick (as clearly evidenced here)
 
Old 11-19-2023, 09:04 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ View Post
Sorry, we're all products of the public education system!

Want to fix the schools? Get the social engineering OUT.

Maybe a "voucher" program to let the parents choose which school to enroll their spawn.

A little "competition" never hurt anyone/anything.

How can we lose? Well....

The rest of the (un)developed countries are teaching trig/calc & civics, and the USA schools are trying to

figure out which are girls and which are boys.

We don't knock this crap off soon, we're going to be a 3rd world country. (We may become this anyway, but it'll be a lot easier with "stupid people" as the majority population.)
The fundamental problem is, how do you get the social engineering out? Because the people who go into education believe in social engineering and those who are against it, don't go into education. How do you break the echo chamber that is the Education Industrial Complex -- the mix of Education Colleges; Education Unions; Education publishers; and Education Managers who control every step of education from the time an aspiring teacher starts training to the books and materials used in schools to the selection and promotion of teachers to management positions to the policies that get enacted into law?

People screamed about the so called military industrial complex, but it is the Education Industrial Complex that is the real problem.
 
Old 11-19-2023, 09:20 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Charter schools often have no oversight or checks and balances. Not to mention public schools adhere to state standards. Just putting that out there.
 
Old 11-19-2023, 01:27 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
I am glad if public schools improve themselves to compete.
 
Old 11-19-2023, 03:06 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Originally Posted by StealthRabbit View Post
. Want to fix the schools? Get the social engineering OUT.

That may take a reboot.

As in giving the boot to those on control.

We have a virus within, and it feeds upon itself.

The irony is thick (as clearly evidenced here)
Would you mind repeating that in English?
 
Old 11-19-2023, 05:12 PM
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Location: ^##
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Originally Posted by NDak15 View Post
Charter schools often have no oversight or checks and balances. Not to mention public schools adhere to state standards. Just putting that out there.
Obviously, having oversight and state standards means nothing when students from charter and private schools routinely outperform those from public schools.
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