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Old 12-05-2023, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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And which ones footed the bill for all the wonderful things you school did? If you didnt have the tax base they provide..... one group is paying g the bill because they have reached the actualization level and the other gets it for free.
grasping
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Old 12-05-2023, 08:40 AM
 
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Ah sort of...

"In the study, Grundy notes that bilingualism does not prevent or reverse Alzheimer’s disease. Instead, it’s a form of cognitive reserve, like a demanding career or exercise, that strengthens and reorganizes the brain’s circuits, helping to fight off the initial symptoms of dementia until later in life."
True. Dance has been found to have similar results. Combining controlled body movements with the thought process may work even better thought processes alone.
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Old 12-05-2023, 08:42 AM
 
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grasping
Grasping how? There's no argument against the fact that a school district a with higher tax base can provide more opportunities than a school district with a lower tax base.

Getting into a school district with a higher tax base than one's own income would otherwise permit is a benefit to a family with children.
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Old 12-05-2023, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Grasping how? There's no argument against the fact that a school district a with higher tax base can provide more opportunities than a school district with a lower tax base.

Getting into a school district with a higher tax base than one's own income would otherwise permit is a benefit to a family with children.
Why is it grasping? The topic isn't about tax bases. Go back and read the OP.

But I appreciate you advocating for higher school taxes so that schools get far more $$$. Thanks!
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Old 12-05-2023, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I was of the generation that thought a career in high tech was a solid choice. I embraced Electronics, Mechanics, and especially digital computers. Got hired by a certain company known for its BIG BLUE colors.

About halfway through the 80s, it hit me that unless I spoke Mandarin or Japanese, Electronics engineering would not be a secure vocation.
I watched as more and more manufacturing and engineering work left America's shores.

Who's to blame?

Technically, we are.
But frankly, the socialist regime is the driving force - taxing us to death.

If we could invoke the Fairy Godmother Department, and abolish the 14th amendment, thus allow challenging the bogus public debt, and thus ending the reason for the "State of Emergency" (since 1933), and thus ending the need for "contributors" to underwrite that debt (FICA), America might restore its industrial and manufacturing capacity... at the least, being a TAX HAVEN would attract a lot of investors and economic activity.
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Old 12-05-2023, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I was of the generation that thought a career in high tech was a solid choice. I embraced Electronics, Mechanics, and especially digital computers. Got hired by a certain company known for its BIG BLUE colors.

About halfway through the 80s, it hit me that unless I spoke Mandarin or Japanese, Electronics engineering would not be a secure vocation.
I watched as more and more manufacturing and engineering work left America's shores.

Who's to blame?

Technically, we are.
But frankly, the socialist regime is the driving force - taxing us to death.

If we could invoke the Fairy Godmother Department, and abolish the 14th amendment, thus allow challenging the bogus public debt, and thus ending the reason for the "State of Emergency" (since 1933), and thus ending the need for "contributors" to underwrite that debt (FICA), America might restore its industrial and manufacturing capacity... at the least, being a TAX HAVEN would attract a lot of investors and economic activity.
Looks like a post that belongs over in Politics & Other Controversies
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Old 12-05-2023, 11:28 AM
 
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Zero INFLUENCING required, or desired in k-12...

Stick with this

The only school program that has any hope of exposing students to viable careers is Voc tech or CC. K-12 And U's are full of career academia's. So we should have a huge flow of very competent candidates for education careers. We're so Smart.
What a narrow view of education. My kids (both graduated college 2005 & 2009) majored in nursing and math. They had many chances in elementary and high school to explore STEM. Everything from chess club, Lego robotics and computer clubs, high school engineering competitions, science fairs and many career fairs.
Schools try to expose kids to STEM but popular culture often trumps those hard academic classes with the glamour of professional sports or Wall Street money. In the end the nerds won.
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Old 12-05-2023, 11:58 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Earning a living is, so to speak, "job one." Once survival needs are handled, one can look forward to self-actualization.
Yes, and I will be the first to say there are benefits to reading Homer in the original Greek.

Not that I have done so, but I am sure there are benefits.
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Old 12-05-2023, 01:14 PM
 
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Why is it grasping? The topic isn't about tax bases. Go back and read the OP.
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Being a bit disingenuous there aren't you since it was in response to your statement below and that all those nice to have things come as a result of funding. And therefore, very pertinent to the topic of how well we've done at "inspiring youth to go into science and engineering." Or perhaps not so well given the latest PISA scores. Those scores might even cause one to wonder if our education system is spending too much on those "actualization" subjects like band, drama, art, and such and not enough on the fundamental survival subjects like math, science, and technical skills.
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School-wise, I was from a community that was very much into things other than just $$$. We had a full time orchestra teacher, a full time band teacher, and a full time drama teacher in a school of under 1,000 students (most of the time), and those programs were, literally, in demand. Along with a huge 2-part gifted program. The latter was about $$$, but the former was about cultural awareness.
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Earning a living is, so to speak, "job one." Once survival needs are handled, one can look forward to self-actualization.
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Old 12-05-2023, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Grasping how? There's no argument against the fact that a school district a with higher tax base can provide more opportunities than a school district with a lower tax base.

Getting into a school district with a higher tax base than one's own income would otherwise permit is a benefit to a family with children.
Actually the tax base had nothing to do with it.

The county offered a 7 period day for middle schools. Math, science, social studies, English, and PE. Then, middle schools had a list of electives they could offer for the other 2 periods, and at each school those electives were based on what students/parents chose. If we didn't have enough interest in orchestra or drama, then two teachers in two other areas would have been hired. The number of teachers hired for core and electives would have been the same, just in different electives. And, don't say but the county had to buy the instruments for orchestra, because the school system did not pay for the instruments in band or orchestra.
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