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Old 01-20-2024, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Wife: "Honey, we need to buy a better quality food and start eating better".

Husband: "You're right honey. So instead of me giving you $150 a week for groceries, I'm going to give you $110 a week. That should take care of it".
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Old 01-20-2024, 05:28 PM
 
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Wife: "Honey, we need to buy a better quality food and start eating better".

Husband: "You're right honey. So instead of me giving you $150 a week for groceries, I'm going to give you $110 a week. That should take care of it".
Well, leave out the two boxes of cookies at $4 each. And the three cartons of soda at $8 each. And the "gourmet" microwave meals at $4.75 and wow, eating healthier and saving money.

But let's have a serious conversation about this. We have to ask ourselves are we spending the money in the most effective way and getting the best ROI for the money spent. What will we do different with the money we have now and what will we do differently with the future money educators want that will change the outcomes? Will we change how things are taught? Will we change the discipline problems in school? What will be different this time?
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Old 01-20-2024, 06:49 PM
 
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Well, leave out the two boxes of cookies at $4 each. And the three cartons of soda at $8 each. And the "gourmet" microwave meals at $4.75 and wow, eating healthier and saving money.

But let's have a serious conversation about this. We have to ask ourselves are we spending the money in the most effective way and getting the best ROI for the money spent. What will we do different with the money we have now and what will we do differently with the future money educators want that will change the outcomes? Will we change how things are taught? Will we change the discipline problems in school? What will be different this time?
Yes, I think that conversation should go, "Tell me how you'll fix it, then we'll discuss how we'll pay for the fix."
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Old 01-20-2024, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well, leave out the two boxes of cookies at $4 each. And the three cartons of soda at $8 each. And the "gourmet" microwave meals at $4.75 and wow, eating healthier and saving money.

But let's have a serious conversation about this. We have to ask ourselves are we spending the money in the most effective way and getting the best ROI for the money spent. What will we do different with the money we have now and what will we do differently with the future money educators want that will change the outcomes? Will we change how things are taught? Will we change the discipline problems in school? What will be different this time?
You have one vote.
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Old 01-20-2024, 07:51 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well, leave out the two boxes of cookies at $4 each. And the three cartons of soda at $8 each. And the "gourmet" microwave meals at $4.75 and wow, eating healthier and saving money.

But let's have a serious conversation about this. We have to ask ourselves are we spending the money in the most effective way and getting the best ROI for the money spent. What will we do different with the money we have now and what will we do differently with the future money educators want that will change the outcomes? Will we change how things are taught? Will we change the discipline problems in school? What will be different this time?
I couldn't even tell you what the school system is like these days.
I left in 2018 and changes happen so quick now.
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Old 01-20-2024, 08:15 PM
 
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You have one vote.
What are we voting on? Or do educators not really have any plan?
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Old 01-20-2024, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What are we voting on? Or do educators not really have any plan?
You know better. There are lots of ideas out there. In lots of states. In lots of districts.
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:14 AM
 
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You know better. There are lots of ideas out there. In lots of states. In lots of districts.
You still haven't presented what you would do with the extra money.
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:24 AM
 
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Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) began in 1939 with the purpose of keeping white mothers out of the workforce during the Depression Era. They got the aid even if their unemployed husbands were in the house. American entrance into WWII and the workforce changes wrought by the war were not contemplated at the time.

I specified "white mothers" because black mothers did not receive the aid in most states (although it was a government program, it was managed by the states). Black mothers were considered already in the workforce, and in many states the intention was to keep them in the work force as a cheap labor resource, both domestic and commercial.

The aid was extended to black mothers in the latter years of the Eisenhower Administration, prior to the Civil Rights Act and prior to the Johnson Administration. However, at that same time many states established the notorious "no man in the house rule."
This rule is cited as a reason why many families broke up and why the whole single mother thing became so widespread. However, you have to think about it. The rule was created because there was a belief fathers ought to be working and supporting families. There was concern also that without this rule that some low income fathers might stop working entirely secure in the knowledge they could just go pick up check every month from Uncle Sam instead. I don't see it as evil or insidious. It may have had some detrimental effects, but the intentions behind it were reasonable ones.
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Old 01-21-2024, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You still haven't presented what you would do with the extra money.
1. That would be a waste of time with you.

2. That's not for one person to decide. It has to be a democratic process. It isn't a "well I have the answer" situation.
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