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Old 12-28-2023, 05:23 PM
 
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What the hell has gone wrong in this country that this is even a problem? No phones during class means no phones during class. First offense maybe daddy has to come to the school to pick the phone up. Second time little Joey gets a 3 day break. Third time is the rest of the year at the 'alternate' school where they send the delinquents. We need rules with consequences.
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Old 12-28-2023, 05:42 PM
 
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What the hell has gone wrong in this country that this is even a problem? No phones during class means no phones during class. First offense maybe daddy has to come to the school to pick the phone up. Second time little Joey gets a 3 day break. Third time is the rest of the year at the 'alternate' school where they send the delinquents. We need rules with consequences.
Send a kid to the alternative school with the kids who committed felonies for using their phone? That's excessive.
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Old 12-28-2023, 05:57 PM
 
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What the hell has gone wrong in this country that this is even a problem? No phones during class means no phones during class. First offense maybe daddy has to come to the school to pick the phone up. Second time little Joey gets a 3 day break. Third time is the rest of the year at the 'alternate' school where they send the delinquents. We need rules with consequences.
Yeah. Not going to fly. It's ALWAYS the parents who give them phones, and OFTEN the parents who are texting them during class. You have no idea how much phones serve as an umbilical cord for many obsessive parents these days.

You think something as utterly trivial as masking requirements stirred up a sh**t show at schools and school boards during the pandemic. Try expelling kids from school for responding to a text from mom and watch the outrage unfold.
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:12 PM
 
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What the hell has gone wrong in this country that this is even a problem? No phones during class means no phones during class. First offense maybe daddy has to come to the school to pick the phone up. Second time little Joey gets a 3 day break. Third time is the rest of the year at the 'alternate' school where they send the delinquents. We need rules with consequences.
Guess you never had to control a thousand kids (or more).
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Old 12-29-2023, 04:43 AM
 
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Send a kid to the alternative school with the kids who committed felonies for using their phone? That's excessive.

Why is it excessive? You send the kid to the alternate school because he demonstrates an unwillingness to play by simple rules. Which is exactly why the others are there. Maybe if the felons had faced some consequences early on they wouldn't be there, either.
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Old 12-29-2023, 07:18 AM
 
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Why is it excessive? You send the kid to the alternate school because he demonstrates an unwillingness to play by simple rules. Which is exactly why the others are there. Maybe if the felons had faced some consequences early on they wouldn't be there, either.
Alternative schools teach basic classes. You want a kid from an AP class who is bored and looks at his phone to be tossed into the DAEP, lose their AP classes, possibly ending their ability to graduate in the top 10% that guarantees entry to certain state universities in Texas? That's excessive. And what happens when 500 kids are sent to DAEP and there's no capacity for them?
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Old 12-29-2023, 07:30 AM
 
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Why is the issue about phones and not about disruption to the class? If the kid using the phone is disrupting the class, use the tools already in place for disrupting the class. If the kid is sitting there quietly not bothering anyone while the teacher goes back over the same topic for the umpteenth time, who cares?

Sounds more like a solution in search of schools to buy it. $$$$
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Old 12-29-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Why is the issue about phones and not about disruption to the class? If the kid using the phone is disrupting the class, use the tools already in place for disrupting the class. If the kid is sitting there quietly not bothering anyone while the teacher goes back over the same topic for the umpteenth time, who cares?

Sounds more like a solution in search of schools to buy it. $$$$
The problem is a lot more complex then a student disrupting a class. Students are addicted to their phones. Most of them are assigned Chromebooks, but they want to do assignments, write papers, read books, and take tests on their phone. A common scenario is the teacher gives an assignment where answers should come from a textbook. The students don't like to use textbooks so they Google the question on their phone. Their goal is to quickly finish the assignment and then move to TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, etc., all while listening to music on their phone.

And what if the teacher goes over the topic for the first time, but the student is absorbed with a TikTok video?
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Old 12-29-2023, 08:34 AM
 
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The problem is a lot more complex then a student disrupting a class. Students are addicted to their phones. Most of them are assigned Chromebooks, but they want to do assignments, write papers, read books, and take tests on their phone. A common scenario is the teacher gives an assignment where answers should come from a textbook. The students don't like to use textbooks so they Google the question on their phone. Their goal is to quickly finish the assignment and then move to TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, etc., all while listening to music on their phone.

And what if the teacher goes over the topic for the first time, but the student is absorbed with a TikTok video?
The teachers need to move their desks to the back of the class so that when there's a computer assignment the teacher can see all the screens.
Walk to the front to teach at the board but sit in the back to keep an eye on the kids.

Most don't do that from what I observed.
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Old 12-29-2023, 09:34 AM
 
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Technology exists that will cast all the students' screens to the teachers' desktops. Administrators can view them as well. It's just not done yet. I expect it will be.
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