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Old 02-18-2024, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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-High schools not offering...
-No classes on...
-University not offering...

Why?
Not all. When I taught at the local Community College, I always interspersed what I called "life lessons" throughout my lectures. Those were basically 'short stories' from my life experiences that would help a young adult just starting out in life. On the first day of class, during the introduction, I also told them that I am not "politically correct". That saved a lot of misunderstandings throughout the semester.
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Old 02-18-2024, 05:24 PM
 
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How can this be a serious question when you're ignoring the obvious reason: money.

  1. What "trades" did you have in mind? Are you aware of the existence of technical high schools which do offer classes in "trades"? Many technical high schools are regional, with multiple high schools feeding into them. Some high schools have standalone technical courses.
  2. Social/emotional learning is generally embedded in everyday classroom activities. Parents should be their children's first teachers on those topics. That includes money management.
  3. I can see universities matching students with internships, both on campus and off-campus. They have little power to "offer" internships off-campus, though.
SEL is just code for DEI.
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Old 02-18-2024, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Disagree. People are concerned about content; not what name is on the class. And it's not even about the so called "standards" but about what is actually being taught in the classroom. Parents see the textbooks; they see the homework; and they see the tests. That's content, not course title.
You're not going to see social/emotional learning in homework or on a test. It's everyday stuff that is embedded into everyday interaction among human beings.
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Most parents simply don't have the background to teach their kids this material. However, if they did the school could have avoided spending all this time on a class that emphasized personal health.
Most parents aren't health professionals, and most parents never will be.
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SEL is just code for DEI.
Wrong. But I'm not surprised some would react with a knee-jerk to the phrase and never really understand the concept. Social/emotional learning is stuff that the OP says isn't being taught, when it is, on a daily basis: communication skills, conflict resolution skills, time management, self management, anger management, self-awareness, decision making.

Nothing of social/emotional learning is DEI.
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Old 02-23-2024, 03:20 PM
 
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-High schools not offering many classes on the trades, driver's ed, or ANY skills on money management
-No classes on impulse control, self-discipline, conflict resolution, etc.
-University not offering job training or white-collar apprenticeships, forcing graduates into the catch-22 involving jobs and job experience (I'm sure you know exactly what I am talking about).

Why?

Serious question.
Parents don't trust teachers to pick books or teach history... but now they want teachers to be the primary people teaching conflict resolution and self-discipline?

Sarcasm aside, we DO teach conflict resolution and self-discipline. These things are results of students working in groups, managing their time, submitting assignments in a timely fashion, etc. Reading comprehension, analysis, critical thinking, and synthesizing information are other side effects.

K-12 institutions can only do so much. Colleges absolutely offer internships. Students don't always take advantage, but they are there.
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Old 02-23-2024, 03:23 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Parents don't trust teachers to pick books or teach history... but now they want teachers to be the primary people teaching conflict resolution and self-discipline?

Sarcasm aside, we DO teach conflict resolution and self-discipline. These things are results of students working in groups, managing their time, submitting assignments in a timely fashion, etc. Reading comprehension, analysis, critical thinking, and synthesizing information are other side effects.

K-12 institutions can only do so much. Colleges absolutely offer internships. Students don't always take advantage, but they are there.
Different set of parents. The parents are all different and don't think or act in the "collective"
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Old 02-27-2024, 07:04 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by ncole1 View Post
-High schools not offering many classes on the trades, driver's ed, or ANY skills on money management
-No classes on impulse control, self-discipline, conflict resolution, etc.
-University not offering job training or white-collar apprenticeships, forcing graduates into the catch-22 involving jobs and job experience (I'm sure you know exactly what I am talking about).

Why?

Serious question.
NY is now suggesting or mandating life-skills education. My wife went to a BOE town hall meeting on the subject last night.
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Old 02-27-2024, 08:39 PM
 
Location: WA
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NY is now suggesting or mandating life-skills education. My wife went to a BOE town hall meeting on the subject last night.
What existing requirement are the proposing be removed in favor of "life skills"
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Old 02-29-2024, 12:40 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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What existing requirement are the proposing be removed in favor of "life skills"
I don't know. I'll try to remember to ask my wife, who went to the town hall.
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Old 03-01-2024, 05:16 AM
 
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Everything I learned that was of any value occurred outside of school. School was just a place to talk w/ your buddies and meet girls. Oh, and to grab a smoke.

Yes, we had a smoking area in high school. So I guess I did learn something. Mostly, which end of the cigarette to hold in my mouth. It was still easy to get confused if Betty Sue bent over in that halter top, which led to the invention of Camel cigarettes. Either end worked fine.
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Old 03-01-2024, 08:11 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Everything I learned that was of any value occurred outside of school. School was just a place to talk w/ your buddies and meet girls. Oh, and to grab a smoke.

Yes, we had a smoking area in high school.
Did you have any sort of health class or play sports? That said, it solidifies the point as to why high-schools need to teach basic life skills, per the thread.
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