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Old 03-25-2024, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Everyone who I know needed college degrees to work in their "Dream Jobs". And it is good to remember, dreams change and 17–18-year-olds are not known for their enduring life choices.

Just get a BA from anywhere and get over it. It's the new High School Diploma.
Not really since less than 40% of the people gets a BA or BS.
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Old 03-26-2024, 09:49 AM
 
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/yo...repreneur-saysPretty interesting


College education isn't for everyone. There are very successful outcomes aot there
Let's start over. Please address the topic. No snarky name calling.
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Old 03-26-2024, 11:38 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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What I've been telling my kids is to first figure out what it is they want to do, something that matches their talents and interests, then plot a path for how they will get there. If college is on that path then it's worth going, if it's not on that path then it doesn't need to be a priority. Absent some sort of major scholarship college is too expensive to just go to for the sake of going nowadays. Go in pursuit of a specific goal, but not just to say you got a degree.
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Old 03-26-2024, 03:10 PM
 
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What I've been telling my kids is to first figure out what it is they want to do, something that matches their talents and interests, then plot a path for how they will get there. If college is on that path then it's worth going, if it's not on that path then it doesn't need to be a priority. Absent some sort of major scholarship college is too expensive to just go to for the sake of going nowadays. Go in pursuit of a specific goal, but not just to say you got a degree.
Common sense at work here.
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Old 03-26-2024, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Common sense at work here.
What's common sense to one person often isn't common sense to another person.
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Old 03-26-2024, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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What I've been telling my kids is to first figure out what it is they want to do, something that matches their talents and interests, then plot a path for how they will get there. If college is on that path then it's worth going, if it's not on that path then it doesn't need to be a priority. Absent some sort of major scholarship college is too expensive to just go to for the sake of going nowadays. Go in pursuit of a specific goal, but not just to say you got a degree.

College isn't just about saying you got a degree or even just about getting a certain job. If a student really takes advantage of what a college campus offers, there is a tremendous opportunity for personal growth, broadened knowledge and experiences that they wouldn't have anywhere else. It is a lot to ask of most 18-year-olds to set their specific life goal and, if they can't, to just brush off college. If they are interested and have the ability, in my family, we support going to college. Of course, in a financially smart way.
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Old 03-26-2024, 08:20 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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College isn't just about saying you got a degree or even just about getting a certain job. If a student really takes advantage of what a college campus offers, there is a tremendous opportunity for personal growth, broadened knowledge and experiences that they wouldn't have anywhere else. It is a lot to ask of most 18-year-olds to set their specific life goal and, if they can't, to just brush off college. If they are interested and have the ability, in my family, we support going to college. Of course, in a financially smart way.
Very good post! Plus one.!!!!
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Old 03-26-2024, 10:05 PM
 
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College isn't just about saying you got a degree or even just about getting a certain job. If a student really takes advantage of what a college campus offers, there is a tremendous opportunity for personal growth, broadened knowledge and experiences that they wouldn't have anywhere else. It is a lot to ask of most 18-year-olds to set their specific life goal and, if they can't, to just brush off college. If they are interested and have the ability, in my family, we support going to college. Of course, in a financially smart way.
Which is fine if you can afford to do it. But how many families, esp first gen college students, can afford to attend college just for personal growth, knowledge, and experience if they don't have a plan for what they are going to do with it afterward? Without a plan, what do they major in? What courses do they take? What internships do they get?
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Old 03-26-2024, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Which is fine if you can afford to do it. But how many families, esp first gen college students, can afford to attend college just for personal growth, knowledge, and experience if they don't have a plan for what they are going to do with it afterward? Without a plan, what do they major in? What courses do they take? What internships do they get?
It isn't "just for". It's more of a side benefit.
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Old 03-27-2024, 01:07 AM
 
Location: In the elevator!
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What's common sense to one person often isn't common sense to another person.
Which is probably why schools should probably stop pushing the “everyone goes to college” mentality, if they haven’t already.

I am shocked that we are years and years past the NCLB, but that to some extent, “one size fits all tactics” are still in existence, despite mountains of scholarly evidence that they are ineffective. Old habits die hard.
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