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Old 06-14-2008, 06:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by K-Luv View Post
I disagree, and stand that it it can be one word.
Sorry, but only in the most informal, colloquial (read: incorrectly casual) sense can it be done. Apologies to Kurt Cobain, but he wasn't an English major.
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Old 06-14-2008, 09:58 PM
 
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Ah, but it was to Kurt Cobain.
Since when has Curt Cobain been an authority on the English language? It's two words. Look it up. Furthermore, please stop trying to further degrade this fine language of ours. Change is inevitable, but it's not a free-for-all.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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Sorry, but only in the most informal, colloquial (read: incorrectly casual) sense can it be done. Apologies to Kurt Cobain, but he wasn't an English major.
It can be done because it can be done. It is read and spoken as one word, and it takes on the meaning of one word. So it might as well be written as one word.

Any ways Mr. Wallace, can you please explain to me then how nevertheless is one word and not three? Oh whoops, I meant anyways.

You can be a purist all you want, but give it some time and nevermind will be accepted as proper.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:05 PM
 
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Since when has Curt Cobain been an authority on the English language? It's two words. Look it up. Furthermore, please stop trying to further degrade this fine language of ours. Change is inevitable, but it's not a free-for-all.
Furthermore; another fine example
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:15 AM
 
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Since when has Curt Cobain been an authority on the English language? It's two words. Look it up. Furthermore, please stop trying to further degrade this fine language of ours. Change is inevitable, but it's not a free-for-all.
Perhaps you've got the spelling down but you've missed the sarcasm in general writing.
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:17 AM
 
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Ah, but it was to Kurt Cobain.
And who would dare to contend that this drugged-out, flannel-clad, hygiene-phobic suicidal blockhead was anything but an erudite scholar of the English language?
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:18 AM
 
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Cobain was no grammarian, of course, but he was a poet. I suspect his one-word album title was deliberate wordplay (think about it). If so, it evidently went over the heads of some people who liked his pretty songs but didn't know what it meant when he said, "Yeah."

Speaking of entertainers who left the stage prematurely, it's too bad Gilda Radner is no longer with us. We could use a couple of words from Emily Littella (sp?) now.
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Old 06-15-2008, 02:11 PM
 
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Perhaps you've got the spelling down but you've missed the sarcasm in general writing.
Well, some days are better than others. I get about 3 hours of sleep a night, so that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:08 PM
 
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It can be done because it can be done. It is read and spoken as one word, and it takes on the meaning of one word. So it might as well be written as one word.

Any ways Mr. Wallace, can you please explain to me then how nevertheless is one word and not three? Oh whoops, I meant anyways.

You can be a purist all you want, but give it some time and nevermind will be accepted as proper.
Perhaps. Language evolves, as do we all. Anyway (no "s" needed), you can (and may) use language any way you choose, of course, but not all usages are considered correct. Way back in the day (Chaucer's), it was correct to pronounce the "k" in knight and knife, and the words sounded (respectively) like kuh-NIKHT, with a hard ch sound that you hear more in German and Yiddish than English nowadays, and like kuh-NEEF-uh. That was correct; it is not so any longer, and would be considered incorrect pronunciation.

However, linguistic evolution aside, it's still currently considered incorrect to spell "never mind" as one word.

As far as nevertheless, its origin is ultimately Anglo-Saxon and was originally spelled as naðelæs from prior to 1011, and is a combination of the three words never, the, and less. Words come together and fall apart as part of normal language evolution (much as people themselves do). In Jane Austen's time and earlier, it was normal to write tomorrow with a dash: to-morrow. Now, it would be considered an incorrect use of the dash.

However -- again -- it's still currently considered incorrect to spell "never mind" as one word.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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Anyway (no "s" needed)
You are correct. I was being sarcastic.

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However, linguistic evolution aside, it's still currently considered incorrect to spell "never mind" as one word.
I am getting in on the ground floor with this one. Ten years from now I will be able to point my opinionated finger at everyone and say See, I was right all along

It would be honest to say that I am taking on this issue in a philosophical way. Usually I am more of a grammatical nazi when it comes to such business.
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