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Old 10-27-2008, 02:20 AM
 
Location: USA
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Depends on the school.

My nephew is taking Calculus II for college credit at his school, and he is a sophomre in H.S.

I think I was just taking Algebra II my sophomore year.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:44 AM
 
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I still don't understand how difficult math = growing up too fast.
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:01 AM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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What happens to all of the kids that aren't quite ready to grasp these concepts yet?
I had two kids like that, and I'll tell you what happens. They both hate math because they were made to feel incompetent at a young age. My daughter was able to do math in her head as young as 6, but once the school started pushing her to learn how to tell time, and count change (which she just couldn't get --- we found out later she was dyslexic) in her math class, she started to dislike math and has disliked it ever since. Any pschologist will tell you that it takes a certain level of PHYSICAL maturity to understand higher level math concepts. A lot of kids just "don't get it" until they're older. By that time a lot of them have mentally "dropped out" of math. A shame.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I started learning algebra in 7th grade. I started doing calculus in 11th. I wasn't in any advance class. It was just the way it was taught in school. Of course I didn't go to school in the US.
I was a very naive kid. Sometimes I feel I am a very naive adult.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Hollywood)
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Geometry in 6th grade sounds fantastic to me. In fact, I find it encouraging to know that there are schools and districts out there that still push kids to succeed at academic pursuits.

In Los Angeles Unified we can't seem to get even a sizable minority of H.S. freshmen to pass first year algebra. District administrators cry and bemoan that they don't have enough money and that they can't recruit good math teachers. BALONEY, I have been teaching in the district for nine years. They have plenty of money, but cannot learn to spend it wisely.

Their constant refrain of, "blame the teacher," only leads to good math teachers spending one or two years before leaving the district in disgust. Our district handsomely pays "coaches" to come in and whip the teachers into shape. Periodic assessments are administered at a cost of hundreds of millions just to discover that the kids cannot multiply or divide with any accuracy. Meanwhile the kids just bask in the unwarranted sympathy and spend class periods listening to Ipods and playing with Game Boys. If a teacher dares to take one of them away, look out for the lies of physical abuse which are sure to follow. Homework is just a memory that teachers have of their own schooling. Parents are miserably unaware of the efforts needed to master content material - most of them cannot multiply or divide either. They are angry and vindictive about the bottom level test scores of their children, notwithstanding, and consider themselves to be victims. Administrators harness these gratuitous sentiments and use them for their own short-sighted purposes.

If your students are taking Geometry in Sixth grade, get on your knees and weep great tears of gratitude.
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:14 PM
 
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Are todays children growing up to fast?

I think that they are growing up too fast... not just mentally but physically!

My mom lives by a JR high school and I have to pass by that school to get to her house. I went to that school and when I was a kid the girls all used to look like "Pippy Longstockings" with pigtail, braces, and were flat chested. Now they look like 18 year old super models... tall, beautiful, (or in the guy's cases muscular), some have tatoos, big breasts etc.

I think the internet access has exposed children to so many things so quickly that they have inadvertently grown up. Take porn for instance... as a kid we had little of no access to anything other than National Geographic or the occasional Playboy in someone's trash. Now they get such hardcore materials in almost everything they surf. My daughter is 6 years old and she has asked me what sexual terms mean or specific questions about "French kissing" that I wasn't even aware of at that age!



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Old 10-31-2008, 03:21 PM
 
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I still don't understand how difficult math = growing up too fast.
I think that the original post was more about inappropriate curriculum than kids growing up too fast? To be more clear, it was about teaching kids concepts that they are not ready for.
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Western Hoosierland
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thats what i was talking about i think the curriculum being shoved down our childrens throats these days will only set them up to fail. i mean if a kid cant tie his shoes how do you expect that kid to do fractions?
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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When my son started 7th grade he correctly observed that most of his peers knew more about American Idol than American History.

In the developed countries that are outperforming our kids in math and science, Algebra is standard in 7th or 8th grade at the latest. Here it is standard in 9th grade and maybe, if your child is 'advanced', if they have enough space in the class or a teacher qualified to teach it, your child can get in 8th Grade Algebra. (This is in our district, our school, ranked one of the best in our state.)

Why is that? Why aren't our kids ready for Algebra in 7th grade but they know all the lyrics to the songs in High School Musical? This isn't about what the kids are 'ready for' but what the priorities are and what is emphasized.

We underestimate our kids and what they can achieve if given the opportunity and proper preparation.
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