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Old 06-22-2009, 06:04 PM
 
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Overall from a statistical standpoint, schools are the safest place for kids to be.
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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Wow, I'm glad I went to school in a rural place. The doors at our school were locked during the day and there was always a liason officer there. I never felt at risk.
Wait, they locked the doors DURING school while kids were there?

How dangerous! What would have happened in case of a fire?
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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What can be done? Get rid of 20% of the rift raft that causes problems for the other 80%.

The amount of violence and hostility allowed on schools is just insane...stuff that would never be allowed in the real world or in a workplace. Why is there a seperate set of rules for schools? Why is it usually the dumbest kids bringing down the smartest ones?

The normal kids that behave well should be able to get out of school earlier than 18 and make some money and get on with their lives, and not be dragged down by rift raft. That's a horrible constrant on your potential.
I agree with the point that it's a small percentage of people causing problems for the majority, but some of the reasons schools are different than workplaces are (a) schools have kids, not adults; in theory adults should have learned to handle themselves, well, like adults; and (b) school is mandatory until a certain age, work isn't. Not that kids should be running around wild, and of course everything should be done to prevent violence and other problems both in and out of school, but there are inevitably going to be differences in a work and a school environment and approaches to discipline based on the basic fact that work has adults and schools have kids and teenagers.

The other thing is that schools are overall safe places for kids to be. Also, the workplace also has its problems - including, in extreme cases, shootings and other acts of violence.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Wait, they locked the doors DURING school while kids were there?

How dangerous! What would have happened in case of a fire?
Please tell us you're joking . . .
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Western Hoosierland
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Wait, they locked the doors DURING school while kids were there?

How dangerous! What would have happened in case of a fire?


My school corporation keeps the doors locked during school hours. In order to get passed the third barriers you have to pass security. All doors throughout the school corporation are controlled and locked by computers.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What can be done to stop this trend??
Hold school in prison. You eat, sleep and have classes there.

But seriously, home schooling.
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:24 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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My school corporation keeps the doors locked during school hours. In order to get passed the third barriers you have to pass security. All doors throughout the school corporation are controlled and locked by computers.
That is SO dangerous, especially since it's on a computer system.

I'm pretty darn sure it's against fire code too.
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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The reality is that many kids are raising themselves. After speaking to the parent of a difficult student it is often apparent that the kid isn't as bad the parent. With that being the case, it is no wonder that schools face a difficult challenge in trying to get a child on-board to acceptable behavior, the importance of learning, etc.

What many on this forum might consider abnormal behavior, such as violence, open drug use, heavy use of profanity, unrestricted watching of pornography by children are a normal part of the environment many children grow up in.

Many students believe my use of please, thank you, pardon me, as well as not allowing the use of words such as sucks, friggin', crap, etc., in my middle school classroom to be quite abnormal.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Western Hoosierland
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That is SO dangerous, especially since it's on a computer system.

I'm pretty darn sure it's against fire code too.


How is that dangerous? In todays environment having school doors controlled by computers is a must. That prevents unwanted people from getting through and causing trouble and students from leaving school to skip and what not. Having doors controlled by computers is no where near against fire code.The doors/security/fire alarms/bell systems/lighting and what not are all wired together and controlled by computers.

My high school has 225 cameras and 33 dummy cameras on campus not because we live in a high crime area or we have a high crime high school but because the tax payers of our township wanted maximum security and they paid top dollar for it.

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Old 06-23-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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Our schools also have locked doors during the day, but they open from the inside to allow egress in the case of an emergency. To get in without a key card, you ring the doorbell, and the receptionist unlocks the door for you. My husband's office has the same system.
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