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Old 05-02-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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El Paso City Council OKs Jobe quarry near Franklin Mountains State Park - El Paso Times

City Council yesterday approved by a vote of 7-1 the approval of a Jobe rock quarry, immediately next to the Franklin Mountains State Park. This also coming a few years after the city approved the Smart Growth plan that was supposed to stop this sort of destruction of the landscape. The only Council member with a backbone, Susie Byrd, also pointed out this hypocrisy. Steve Ortega, who bills himself as the "progressive" candidate, also voted for the measure.

Is anyone else bothered by this? One of El Paso's claims to fame is having the country's largest urban park and one of the best hiking environments of any city, and now that pristine section of the Western slopes will be destroyed by an unsightly quarry, which will damage the landscape, ruin the scenic views and kick up tons of dust and pollutants.

How much money was thrown toward Council to approve the quarry against the recommendation of the Planning Dept. and without any public notice about the plan?
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Glory Road - El Paso, Texas (R.O)
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After seeing three different presentations, the City Council went against city staff's recommendation and voted 7-1 to rezone about 115 acres owned by Jobe in far Northwest El Paso. Jobe agreed to donate a key 45-acre arroyo to the city and create a 100-foot buffer zone between the quarry and Franklin Mountains State Park.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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not a fan of this at all. it's unfortunate to see this get approved. Are there quarries like this along the Organ Mountains?
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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100 feet, big deal.

How much did all that cost?
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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100 feet, big deal.

How much did all that cost?
I know, 100 feet might as well be zero feet considering the size of the average quarry in the area. After this billionaire English guy (Jobe) makes his money off it and moves onto a new location to ruin, El Paso will be stuck with that giant eyesore for the rest of its existence. Whatever supposed revenue that would come to the city is minuscule next to the damage it'll do. This really sets an unfortunate precedent-that the City of El Paso wants to enforce Smart Code guidelines--unless a powerful enough businessman comes along who can force his development as he sees fit.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Is this the same quarry? Seems El Paso didn't have a choice.

Texas bill would allow El Paso input on quarry leases - El Paso Times
4/22/2013
"Ignoring input from city officials, Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson last October ordered El Paso to give a quarry lease to an El Paso businessman who is also one of Patterson's top campaign contributors.
If the city refused, the land commissioner had the authority to issue the lease anyway -- and not pay El Paso its 20 percent share of royalties."
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Yeah, I wondered about that too katzpaw. I wonder if this cc vote was mere formality? Is stanley jobe from England?
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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Texas has some of the worst land-use laws in the country, katzpaw, and that article you cite confirms it. I can't tell if its the same quarry site (there's also one being developed in the Northeast and the article is unclear) but if it is that might be the reason City Council went against recommendations; they might have figured that the lease will be issued one way or another, so might as well collect revenue from it. Essentially this guy Jobe can purchase officials for the right price to get things done.

And SA2EP, I might have made a mistake on that, Jobe's former company was owned by a British corporation (and sold to Cemex); he himself I think is from the area.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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Yeah, they've got great ideas with regard to land use and some other things in El Paso, but it's still in Texas, and quite often the city is the worse off for being subject to certain laws and other policies made in Austin.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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The once beautiful Franklin Mountains are becoming a major scarred up eyesore. I'm surprised that El Pasoans have such little appreciation for the mountain. They're also carving up the mountain to put a super-highway through it. Leaders here don't attempt to preserver anything.
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