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Old 04-23-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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We are on vacation here in El Paso and one thing that is interesting is how bilingual the population is. I am a Spanish speaking anglo but many folks automatically speak Spanish to you at first. The only other place which is like this is Miami where the majority of folks are Spanish speaking. I could be wrong though but here in El Paso it seems that there has been a bilingual presence for hundreds of years whereas Miami has only been like since the 1950s - as only then did Cubans and later other Latin American groups started coming there.
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Old 04-23-2021, 07:40 PM
 
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Yes that's something I definitely enjoy about El Paso, being bilingual seems to be a part of the city's culture. I agree there's not too many other cities I can think of like this off the top of my head.
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Old 04-23-2021, 09:49 PM
 
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Its certainly a welcoming place, I am Chinese visited 4 days earlier this month and did not feel out of place whatsoever.
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:57 PM
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What are you doing there while on vacation? I spent a week there a couple of years ago. I didn't find much to do. Went over to Las Cruces and found a lot more things to do.
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:24 AM
 
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We are actually on our way to Big Bend National Park. West Texas and this area is so different from the SF Bay Area where we live. So chill and inexpensive. And no cold fog like where we live in SF - I'm am retired and would really like to live in a place like this particularly in the Scenic Drive area where one could get a really nice home for 1/3 the price of nor cal I'm bilingual and love Mexican food and bbq. My better half says no but it's refreshing to travel and see other places
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Old 04-25-2021, 03:51 PM
 
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Bilingual could be nice unless it stops one from being employed while in the US!
That is a problem for some who are monolingual or speak another language other than Spanish.

English required should be in the job descriptions IMO.
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Old 04-26-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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I don't disagree that many are bi-lingual. Being a first generation US citizen, along with my large immediate family, and enormous amount of relatives, I cannot say that most are truly bi-lingual.

Yes, so many will be able to understand Spanish, and speak to some degree, but it is speaking where I see a disconnect. If you are not a true Spanish speaker, you might notice, but the people who claim to be bi-lingual in El Paso are maybe 50-75% bi-lingual.

There is this thing called 'Spanglish', and that is what you are hearing! I never spoke Spanish myself when I lived there, but did later in life. Also, I married a woman from Barcelona, and so my Spanish improved that way.

My wife can't stand to hear my own siblings speak in Spanish! They start off in Spanish, and mid-sentence, switch to English words. Oooh, that drives my wife crazy! She asked me why don't they speak in Spanish the whole time, and I told her that because their vocabulary is not that great. Sure, they can engage in general greetings, but many cannot carry on a high level of Spanish. Even the old people who speak only Spanish have a limited range. Medical, legal, or or industrial language for example, is usually missing.

My wife (works in the Oil and Gas industry) would come home and tell me that she spoke to guys out in the field, just general workers, and they said something like 'La pipa esta leakeando'. I know, there is no such word, I have to type it as it sounds. But any one from El Paso reading this knows exactly what I am talking about. It took my wife a few minutes to realize what they were saying... 'The pipe is leaking'. But that is not how you say it in Spanish proper.

My own father used to use these words too, like 'rimes', meaning rims. Or 'lawnmore', lawnmower. Even my mother used to get on his case when he would refer to traffic signs as 'signes'.

Id say, if you've ever had to take, and be certified in a foreign language, you will know there is an A1, A2, B1, B2, C1 and C2. Most people in El Paso would most likely fall in the B1-B2, some C1, from my personal experiences in living and growing up there.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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I taught Spanish before in northern Cal (high school) and for the majority of Mexican Americans, they can speak it fine - but have no idea about grammar and writing. Yes, lots of Spanish in El Paso - but I am now in Big Bend right on border and there seems like there is no Mexican influence aside from geography. The only radio station you get out here is NPR Marfa which is for baby boomers in birkenstocks, unlike in El Paso where most radio stations are Spanish language banda.
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Old 04-28-2021, 09:35 PM
 
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My mother spent a couple weeks in El Paso and said she mostly heard people speaking English
She found the city to be very Mexican-American but with a lot of Mexican immigrants too
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Old 04-28-2021, 09:36 PM
 
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I find that city data extremely overstates the level of Mexican-Americans anywhere speak in Spanish
Even in the Texas border towns, education is conducted in English.
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