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Old 09-04-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: SC
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This might be hard for you to accept, but the attention Perry is getting is from those who supported him before the media got into the picture. In fact the media is not in love with him. Now, Obama was pushed down the throats of many by the media 3 and 4 years ago. He was just anothing senator that didn't even vote 1/2 the time.

Nita
Yes and he was a Senator, I bet the ONLY Senator, who won his Senate seat by making sure nobody ran against him. Of course the paper trail has disappeared on that too (just like his birth certificate). Obama played hardball in first Chicago campaign - CNN
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Well, just kidding about the "Shock" part. I think most people saw this coming.

Perry 44% Obama 41%; President Leads Other GOP Hopefuls - Rasmussen Reports™

What are your conclusions about this? Mine are:

* Badmouthing by the media seems to have a reverse effect, at least on the GOP candidates. When people were asking for Ron Paul to receive more coverage by the media, they should have specified negative coverage.

* People will continue to suspect Perry is the flavor of the month, and that's fine. Maybe it will turn out to be true, we'll see after the debates. But what does it say about the other GOP candidates, who seem to fall as Rick Perry's number goes up (none of the other GOP hopefuls even tie with the president in this poll)? It's got to be somewhat disconcerting that the others could so easily slide. Their support does not seem to be very solid.
Ras is a right-wing site that cannot be trusted to provide even half truths wth accuracy and polls in themselves are untrustworthy. Soo much for the premise of this thread.
There is only one poll that counts, it will take place next year and I doubt the Majority of American voters are ready to put another Bush in the Whitehouse, we are not done cleaning up the mess left behind by the last one.
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Ras is a right-wing site that cannot be trusted to provide even half truths wth accuracy and polls in themselves are untrustworthy. Soo much for the premise of this thread.
There is only one poll that counts, it will take place next year and I doubt the Majority of American voters are ready to put another Bush in the Whitehouse, we are not done cleaning up the mess left behind by the last one.
Casper
Right wing: yes, slanted, yes, off usually, yes about 3% but 1/2 truths, come on, you know better than that.

NIta
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Ras is a right-wing site that cannot be trusted to provide even half truths wth accuracy and polls in themselves are untrustworthy. Soo much for the premise of this thread.
Rasmussen correctly predicted Obama's 2008 margin of victory to within one percentage point. It's accuracy is not in question.

PREDICTING THE WAVE: How Big Will Republican Gains Be? - EWRoss.com PF

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It’s not uncommon, however, for the more objective, more accurate polls to predict the outcome of a specific election race by plus or minus one percentage point. Rasmussen Reports predicted President Barack Obama’s victory in the 2008 election by just such a margin. Accurately predicting the outcomes of numerous individual races in past nation-wide elections, Rasmussen also has accurately predicting aggregate gains and losses. Understanding why polls like Rasmussen have been so accurate in predicting the past elections is the key to understanding why Rasmussen and other polls might not accurately reflect the results this year.
Besides, it's an early poll. Perry (or whomever is the nominee) will start to show up as beating Obama in all the other polls as well. Most polls have "generic republican" beating Obama handily; eventually most of that lead will go to the nominee as the party comes together. It's just a matter of time.

Unless of course Obama can create a couple of million jobs by then. Who knows, he does have a speech planned tomorrow. So all hope is not yet lost for Obama supporters, right?
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:31 PM
 
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Rasmussen correctly predicted Obama's 2008 margin of victory to within one percentage point. It's accuracy is not in question.

PREDICTING THE WAVE: How Big Will Republican Gains Be? - EWRoss.com PF



Besides, it's an early poll. Perry (or whomever is the nominee) will start to show up as beating Obama in all the other polls as well. Most polls have "generic republican" beating Obama handily; eventually most of that lead will go to the nominee as the party comes together. It's just a matter of time.

Unless of course Obama can create a couple of million jobs by then. Who knows, he does have a speech planned tomorrow. So all hope is not yet lost for Obama supporters, right?
Ras is not the source of anything in my book, no polls are, not even left slanted ones. We shall see once his fellow Repubs get through with him his poll numbers might not look so great. Obama may create jobs with his new program who knows, but since I am not a socialist I do not expect the Government or President to creat jobs. As for being an Obama supporter, against Perry you are darn right I would be, against Paul I may not be. Don't asume.
Casper
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