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I'm sure this isn't a perspective that will be shared with the corporate media, but the way I see it, if Perry accepts federal aid for the devastating central Texas wildfires, the tea party should see him as a hypocrite.
From what I understand, the consensus of real libertarian tea partiers (ones that aren't mainly preoccupied with race, gay sex or abortions) is that the federal government's only job is to keep us safe from outside threats. Wildfires don't count.
Do you think he'll LOSE tea party votes because of this, or are most libertarian tea partiers actually scared of the "freedom" they say the believe in?
Yes or No?
It will not. The tea party is clueless. They just hate Obama and want the idea of him erased. Thats all they care about. Most of them are on the Government tit anyway. Its never been about debt and taxes those are just fronts. Its so they can say "yeah a black man was President but only for one term by God"
Rick Perry is requesting that the feds give TX back some of the money that it's paid so that we can fight these fires. This money came from TX, it should have never left TX in the first place.
No;because that is the present system i place. id state were allowed to keep more taxes at home it would be different. The fedweral governant in controlling FEMA fudns have shown that they can't react in mnay disasters basically.When states are given more conterol and we elimia=nate the funding maerry go roud we might veen see better siaster planing since it wil be at the local level more. As logn as the fedrl governamnt keeps takig the fundig andfcontrolling where it foes it will be polrical distributed like always.
So it's the FEDs that aren't doing their job. Wouldn't you agree?
Also, he wasn't off campaigning during that time, obviously. He didn't start until August 15th or so. So the only significant time he's spent away from Texas has been in the last 2-3 weeks.
He sent a letter?? Dirty politics are not just on the right and I never claimed so. Issues are often turned into political plays. Whether Perry requested aid or not I felt he should have been here doing all he could. Perry could have done a helluva lot more to GET the aid he wanted a long time ago. Evidently he didn't holler loud enough. I'm not buyin the "he asked for it and the feds didn't give it to him" line. Perry has the capacity to wield power. If the feds said no, what did he do then? He should have said he was going to try and move heaven and earth and he would get that aid if it was the last thing he did.
I'm sure this isn't a perspective that will be shared with the corporate media, but the way I see it, if Perry accepts federal aid for the devastating central Texas wildfires, the tea party should see him as a hypocrite.
From what I understand, the consensus of real libertarian tea partiers (ones that aren't mainly preoccupied with race, gay sex or abortions) is that the federal government's only job is to keep us safe from outside threats. Wildfires don't count.
Do you think he'll LOSE tea party votes because of this, or are most libertarian tea partiers actually scared of the "freedom" they say the believe in?
You know, I've always held a particular dislike of politicians in general, regardless of party affiliation, as I find them to be generally insincere, self absorbed, and lacking moral character, with very few exceptions. But after much consideration .... this thread and the opinions presented, along with other threads commonly reflecting a similar theme, I'm forced to consider the possibility that these pandering politicos may be exactly what the public has created and demanded, as it is almost guaranteed that any issue debated here will be reduced to political rhetoric. These soulless politicians may indeed be a mirror of the public at large.
My family currently resides in the middle of these Austin area wildfires, two of which are less than ten miles away .... and I feel for my neighbors who have lost their homes so far, and we shudder at the possibility of those fires reaching us, as we are located right on the greenbelt which after such a long and dreadfully blistering hot drought, isn't so green. And our empathy for our affected neighbors is easy, because we too lost everything in a fire just a little over 2 years ago, and there are still remnants of the psychological and financial damage we suffered. We know first hand how devastating it is to lose everything, and how hard it is, even with assistance, to get back on your feet.
So this isn't about Rick Perry ... this is about the good people of Central Texas .. my neighbors and friends. Be it Rick Perry, or anyone else, it is the governor of a state that is responsible for soliciting federal disaster relief, and as a nation, regardless of your political ideology, we should ALL be sympathetic to the needs and welfare of our fellow citizens wherever they reside .... particularly those affected by the tragedy of natural disasters, wherever it happens. Assisting those in need is not a political football, and shame on those who attempt to make it one ... take a good look in the mirror, because some of you could well be mistaken for a Rick Perry, or one of the other double talking panderers who don't possess one sincere, compassionate bone in there bodies.
That's not the attitude you'll find in Texas, generally. I was traveling one day ... about 100 miles from home, when what appeared to be heavy smoke began pouring out from under the hood of my car. I immediately pulled over ... and the stranger behind me pulled over too. That's when we discovered the smoke was steam ... apparently something struck my radiator and put a large hole in it. No sooner did we get the hood open, when another car pulled over too. They gave me 3 gallons of spring water that they had just picked up grocery shopping, to help me get my car to a shop, and they wouldn't even allow me to pay for the water! And they offered to escort me to the nearest auto shop in that remote area to get the damage repaired, since I wasn't familiar with the area. This is pretty typical behavior of Texans in general ... down to earth folks that won't look the other way when they see someone in need, even perfect strangers. And what a much greater world it would be if everyone adopted that same type of attitude.
Now, for those who insist on applying pure politics, I would remind them that there is NOTHING hypocritical in requesting federal disaster relief. The very limited (and all too frequently exceeded) powers of the Federal government does assign them responsibility for protecting the nation from threats, and promoting the general welfare. I know a lot of people like to stretch that "General Welfare" part to include forced health care ... government intrusion into private lives ... government intervention in shutting down a mom & pop organic farms, and many many other absurd interpretations .... only to turn around and hypocritically deny disaster relief as a legitimate responsibility.
Well, I've got news for you .... defending our nations borders is one of the few limited responsibilities the federal government has ... and they've done a lousy job .... apparently, much too busy invading other's borders to worry about the one they are responsible for. And since our fine young men and women of the Texas National Guard have been kidnapped by the International Banking Cartel run Pentagon, and sent off to fight in illegal wars overseas, we don't have them as a resource to call upon during a disaster, as is their true INTENDED PURPOSE .... and since the Federal Government steals our money at gunpoint, and uses much of it for purposes we don't agree with (like giving Trillions to the Billionaire Banker Gangsters) we've MORE THAN PAID FOR any relief request already, up front. Anything we receive back is a refund, and it is sure to be less than is actually owed.
But the greater point is ... we are in the midst of a social-political-economic collapse in this country not because of 500 pandering politicians in Washington DC, but because of the egocentric nature of the general populace, so consumed with the trivialities, they seem incapable of recognizing what is truly important, and worthy of consideration and care, like helping their neighbors in times of disaster.
i don't think many people feel or have said, the federal govenment should stay out of our lives altogether. Even Libartarians don't all feel that way. Staying out of our lives refers more to social issues. We all pay taxes to the federal government and yes, when there is a natural disaster some of those taxes should be returned to the states.
I'm sure this isn't a perspective that will be shared with the corporate media, but the way I see it, if Perry accepts federal aid for the devastating central Texas wildfires, the tea party should see him as a hypocrite.
From what I understand, the consensus of real libertarian tea partiers (ones that aren't mainly preoccupied with race, gay sex or abortions) is that the federal government's only job is to keep us safe from outside threats. Wildfires don't count.
Do you think he'll LOSE tea party votes because of this, or are most libertarian tea partiers actually scared of the "freedom" they say the believe in?
Yes or No?
well, you dont have a clue about what the Tea Party is, and you dont have a clue what conservaitves think the role of government is.
First of all, the Tea Party isnt Liberatarian. It is a conservative movement. We dont think there should be no government.
YOU people are the ones projecting this idiotic notion that conservatives think there should be vertually no government.
Go forth and learn truth then come up with a question that has some basis in reality.
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