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no my dear, these are not excuses, and they are cold heart fact...I've been around a long time...and let me tell you, this country is in for a rude awakening very soon....and our poor children and grand children....
We are broke Katiana, broke, along with all our systems....and if that were not true, then tell me why and how 911 could have even happened? We have cut back on our military, and all expenses concerning technology....911 should have never in a millions years happened to us...but it did, why? b/c our systems are broke....and all those 3rd world countries that want this land, are laughing at how utterly stupid/naive we are...
Katiana...the definition of excuse is...
1. Used to acknowledge and ask forgiveness for an action that could cause offense. 2. Used to request that a statement be repeated.
You want so desprately to discredit/disbelief anything anyone tries to educate you with, that you have nothing else to say...that you refuse to see any other opinion, but your own...doesn't make you wrong, just simply makes you less then a part of a community....there is no right or wrong, only opinions and trial and error....
no my dear, these are not excuses, and they are cold heart fact...I've been around a long time...and let me tell you, this country is in for a rude awakening very soon....and our poor children and grand children....
We are broke Katiana, broke, along with all our systems....and if that were not true, then tell me why and how 911 could have even happened? We have cut back on our military, and all expenses concerning technology....911 should have never in a millions years happened to us...but it did, why? b/c our systems are broke....and all those 3rd world countries that want this land, are laughing at how utterly stupid/naive we are...
Katiana...the definition of excuse is...
1. Used to acknowledge and ask forgiveness for an action that could cause offense. 2. Used to request that a statement be repeated.
Funny, my dear crembulee, that when a "liberal" comes up with a reason for something, it's always called an excuse by the RW.
Funny, my dear crembulee, that when a "liberal" comes up with a reason for something, it's always called an excuse by the RW.
Have a taste, crembrulee.
Katiana, I don't care if your liberal or a conservative...black, white, yellow, jew, irish, italian, or whatever....and is not what I was discussing with you...I didn't call you my dear katiana to be a wise guy, or to condiscend you, to hurt you or to make you look like a fool....but that is what you thought isn't it?
Before Medicare/Medicade as Ron Paul discussed if you actually listened. When he WAS A DOCTOR in the 60's people were never turned away and charity along with churches assisted in helping the NEEDY. Ron Paul worked at these hospitals and because government took over they pushed charties out of the way. Also the risk of freedom as Ron Paul mentioned is where people who take that risk should not be rewarded with tax payer and government social programs. Responsiblity comes with freedom and with government nobody is responsible and corporations feed off the corruption found in washington.
This business that letting someone DIE based on insurance is not realistic letting some depend on government ALONE is a sure way to have failure of any service.
This questions to Ron Paul on these debates are just plain set ups of which put a liberty/free market thinking person in a hot seat based on the IDEA that without government everyone would DIE.
Or somehow people we would all starve and live on the streets. They asked Perry and Romney and others about the FED yet skip Ron Paul and instead they ask questions about 1 person doesnt have insurance all will somehow just DIE somewhere. CNN and the media are a joke and Ron Paul has to constantly defend a princple of liberty when these idiots don't even know what liberty and responsiblity is. Ron Paul should just stop answering their questions about drugs and other stupid questions and start answers the questions other candiates get to talk about like the economy and predicting the bubble and issues we face today.
Years ago people helped one another. Now they don't because too many people think that is the role of government. Using force and coercion isn't the way you build a society.
What a clever spin! The audience cheered when Wolf Blitzer said it. "Nuff said.
You do not know the context for why they were cheering, it could have been harsh rhetoric, satire, or sarcasm.
Where is the difference between some rich guy who refuses to buy health care insurance, or if he refuses to buy food? In both instances you might tell the person it will be their own fault if they can afford to care for themselves and refuse to do so.
Years ago people helped one another. Now they don't because too many people think that is the role of government. Using force and coercion isn't the way you build a society.
You guys don't get it do you. Republicans are exactly like that audience. If they would tell the truth they would say "you mean nothing to me,you are poor and only as good as what I can get out of you. You do not deserve the same HC that I get better HC because God has chosen me to have more then you. Quit whining and just die after you have paid your debt to me".
^^^Generally such blatant lies would be considered trolling.^^^
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee
no my dear, these are not excuses, and they are cold heart fact...I've been around a long time...and let me tell you, this country is in for a rude awakening very soon....and our poor children and grand children....
We are broke Katiana, broke, along with all our systems....and if that were not true, then tell me why and how 911 could have even happened? We have cut back on our military, and all expenses concerning technology....911 should have never in a millions years happened to us...but it did, why? b/c our systems are broke....and all those 3rd world countries that want this land, are laughing at how utterly stupid/naive we are...
Katiana...the definition of excuse is...
1. Used to acknowledge and ask forgiveness for an action that could cause offense. 2. Used to request that a statement be repeated.
You want so desprately to discredit/disbelief anything anyone tries to educate you with, that you have nothing else to say...that you refuse to see any other opinion, but your own...doesn't make you wrong, just simply makes you less then a part of a community....there is no right or wrong, only opinions and trial and error....
Great post. It is very sad that so few people are willing to look objectively at the situation and understand that things are going to get a whole lot worse regardless of what "party" to which they belong.
Years ago people helped one another. Now they don't because too many people think that is the role of government. Using force and coercion isn't the way you build a society.
Years ago, that method didn't help everyone. Look at poverty statistics from "the good old days", life expectancy, etc. This didn't work!
well, you could do what a whole lot of people do in this country, you could go to the doctor, get it checked out and not pay your bill....which is what is causing medical care to raise costs...otherwise, they are stripped naked and close...
I don't believe any medical practice here in the U.S. can deny medical care if you don't have insurance...?
Right, but that doesn't solve the problem of access to care, affordability of care, access to drugs and treatment of long-term chronic illness. Say this uninsured person goes to the hospital or to a private doctor and his sore is diagnosed as possibly being melanoma. How is he going to pay for biopsy, lab work, chemo, etc? Under the present system, he will not. Then what?
We need a civilized single-payer insurance system. Period.
no my dear, these are not excuses, and they are cold heart fact...I've been around a long time...and let me tell you, this country is in for a rude awakening very soon....and our poor children and grand children....
We are broke Katiana, broke, along with all our systems....and if that were not true, then tell me why and how 911 could have even happened? We have cut back on our military, and all expenses concerning technology....911 should have never in a millions years happened to us...but it did, why? b/c our systems are broke....and all those 3rd world countries that want this land, are laughing at how utterly stupid/naive we are...
Katiana...the definition of excuse is...
1. Used to acknowledge and ask forgiveness for an action that could cause offense. 2. Used to request that a statement be repeated.
You want so desprately to discredit/disbelief anything anyone tries to educate you with, that you have nothing else to say...that you refuse to see any other opinion, but your own...doesn't make you wrong, just simply makes you less then a part of a community....there is no right or wrong, only opinions and trial and error....
No personal offense, but the above is extremely condescending and totally without merit.
Are our 'systems' broke or broken?
Not sure where this information comes from, but, we are still spending ridiculous amounts of money on our military, on rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan, on placating Israel and on any number of other things that only put money into the pockets of the defense contractors, lobbyists, PACs and politicians.
I saw a report this morning regarding how Eric Cantor readily approved unbelievable amounts of money to build schools, etc. in Iraq and Afghanistan (money that continues to be spent, BTW) but will not do the same for schools, roads, bridges, etc. in his own country.
Why, as a taxpayer, am I not entitled to get some of my money back to improve the infrastructure in my city?
Why, as a taxpayer, am I not entitled to get some of my money back in the form of lower cost healthcare services?
When we can send billions of dollars to foreign countries, there is absolutely no rationale for not providing basic care to our citizens.
None.
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