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Old 09-12-2011, 10:28 PM
 
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:31 PM
 
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Wow, listen to these fools. Ron Paul is out of his mind. He actually thinks churches will pay peoples medical bills. The teabagger crowd cheered for this nonsense and the rest of the candidates appeared to agree. Just let the uninsured die, which includes children. It's a damn shame that we've reached this point where people such as this are vying for an opportunity to be the leader of our country.

GOP Tea Party Debate: Audience Cheers, Says Society Should Let Uninsured Patient Die
Wait... these were like...Christian people??
Uh. Huh.

I guess it would be petty of me to say out loud that I hope they never lose their jobs and medical coverage. That they have no pre-existing conditions. That their cancer treatment costs don't totally overwhelm their health coverage allowances. That their own sainted mother couldn't get a doctor because she had no coverage.
Yeah, I'm feeling petty, I guess.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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This is a tough issue because being conservative and for smaller government you don't want the government to force people to buy a product like health insurance but in the same token we don't want to pay for someone who as the question was posed makes plenty of money but just decided they would rather have a new car or buy an 8 ball and a hooker rather than health insurance.

It's hard to feel bad for someone who chooses not to buy insurance knowing the consequences and then wants me to pay their way

Like Ron Paul said hospitals, non profits, churches step in and care for people. I recently had a large hospital bill, hospital had a program taht helps people with low incomes they picked up 5k worth of hospital bills for me that others had donated. You know what I did, I went ahead and donated $500 to this fund with my income tax refund.
Thats unbelievable- what hospital?. My husband was in ER for 3 hrs and with insurance the bill came to 5k.......I do not believe you......
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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OP-thats classic-protect the unborn, kill the living...what a sad day in America....
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Funny, I was just reading a thread where folks were chortling about a hippy girl who fell out of a tree and broke her back.

It is pretty shocking.

I am deeply saddened by how the recent obsession with politics has eroded our fundamental decency and humanity.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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Wow, listen to these fools. Ron Paul is out of his mind. He actually thinks churches will pay peoples medical bills. The teabagger crowd cheered for this nonsense and the rest of the candidates appeared to agree. Just let the uninsured die, which includes children. It's a damn shame that we've reached this point where people such as this are vying for an opportunity to be the leader of our country.

GOP Tea Party Debate: Audience Cheers, Says Society Should Let Uninsured Patient Die
Spin, spin, spin. Paul did not suggest that the uninsured should be left to die. Obviously you missed where he reflected upon being a physician before the system offered Medicaid and how patients were handled and how people were not denied care.

It's a damn shame we've reached a point in this country where people blatantly lie about what a candidate said for the sake of slandering someone whose actually practiced medicine on the uninsured.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:50 PM
 
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Thats unbelievable- what hospital?. My husband was in ER for 3 hrs and with insurance the bill came to 5k.......I do not believe you......
Health care costs vary widely throughout the country
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Why was this question so misleading, like some sort of low grade college hypothetical?

"Oh, he doesn't have insurance, therefore he must die!!!!!! That is the only option!!!!!!"

What a lame trick question. And of course anti-obamacare anything is going to get cheers in Florida! This is one of the highlighted states that was fighting for an opt-out of the ACA.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No matter ones opinion of NHC, what civilized person would cheer such a heart-rendering decision? If we ever get rationing, who in their right mind would choose to be on such a committee? Josef Mengele? The audience reaction was barbaric.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:55 PM
 
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Spin, spin, spin. Paul did not suggest that the uninsured should be left to die. Obviously you missed where he reflected upon being a physician before the system offered Medicaid and how patients were handled and how people were not denied care.

It's a damn shame we've reached a point in this country where people blatantly lie about what a candidate said for the sake of slandering someone whose actually practiced medicine on the uninsured.
So true...correct me if I'm wrong (which happens quite often ) but doesn't the Hippocratic Oath require a doctor to NOT refuse a dying person care at the risk of having their license to practice revoked?
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