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(Democrats are already blaming New York Democratic nominee David Weprin’s vote for same-sex marriage from when he was in the state Assembly for alienating Jewish voters.)
Granted the link is an opinion piece, but I find it interesting that DEMOCRATS are blaming the loss on the SS marrage vote. Why not man up and admit that it is all your failures, primarily on economics, and the continued attacks on Israel that may just have had an impact? But what the heck, why face facts when you can play the gay card? Lets hope they keep the same tactics.
I agree it is very sad (for the other 6 states (especially NY) and Mexico City)
The one irony of embracing "diversity" in America... we have to welcome and accomodate cultures that advocate and hold on to religious nutbaggery and social control dogma from their homelands that is INcompatible with liberty and freedom.
Last edited by CaseyB; 09-14-2011 at 03:03 PM..
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While this probably had something to do with it, I suspect the overwhelming reason this seat turned Republican was to repudiate Oblama's 3 years of failure on the economy.
Granted the link is an opinion piece, but I find it interesting that DEMOCRATS are blaming the loss on the SS marrage vote. Why not man up and admit that it is all your failures, primarily on economics, and the continued attacks on Israel that may just have had an impact? But what the heck, why face facts when you can play the gay card? Lets hope they keep the same tactics.
because the Orthodox vote turned against Weprin mostly because of marriage (many of the jews who were on record of saying Israel publicly in front of non Jewish audiences said marriage when speaking to Jewish audiences )
While this probably had something to do with it, I suspect the overwhelming reason this seat turned Republican was to repudiate Oblama's 3 years of failure on the economy.
Oh yes here here, that just might also have something to do with it, not like the economy suffering as long as it has, does not matter, it most certainly does. Along with the other things mentioned.
Mr. Turner, 70, lost to Mr. Weiner in the 2010 general election, but he did much better than expected, garnering 40 percent of the vote in a strongly Democratic district.
Weiner is a Liberal and in favor of Gay marriage and yet he beat Turner is 2010.
Koch is not only pro-gay he is gay and so pro-Israel that he crossed party lines because of it.
To say that the gay marriage issue is why Turner won is just plain stupid!
if think you think that Koch influenced the Orthodox vote your crazy (Koch is more popular with gays after endorsing Turner then he is with Orthodox Jews despite endorsing Turner)
the vote in Orthodox parts of Flatbush was reported to be in the mid 80% for Turner it would be reversed if not for marriage. (when the vote totals come out in KGH you'll see that many Jews voted one way in Assembly race and the in the Congressional)
Orthodox Jews and Hispanics are overwhelmingly opposed to gay marriage and Werpins vote supporting it caused them to vote Republican in that district for the first time in forever. How are Neo Progs gonna blame white Evangelical Christians for this one?
(Democrats are already blaming New York Democratic nominee David Weprin’s vote for same-sex marriage from when he was in the state Assembly for alienating Jewish voters.)
Weiner is a Liberal and in favor of Gay marriage and yet he beat Turner is 2010.
in regards to Wiener and marriage
1. ever since the law passed we're way more upset about it and the many jews who thought it would never happen even if they support such a candidate for other reasons woke up.
2. Many Jews frontrunner
3. most Orthodox Jews never heard of DOMA (we're for the most part not politically involved) (though they would support it strongly if they did)
4. Weprin's "Orthodox" and that makes what he did even worse.
5. Weprin's speech was way beyond the pale.
6. Weprin would have took much of Turner's support that he had last time if he was against gay marriage.
get it through your head this race was about marriage
in regards to Wiener and marriage
1. ever since the law passed we're way more upset about it and the many jews who thought it would never happen even if they support such a candidate for other reasons woke up.
2. Many Jews frontrunner
3. most Orthodox Jews never heard of DOMA (we're for the most part not politically involved) (though they would support it strongly if they did)
4. Weprin's "Orthodox" and that makes what he did even worse.
5. Weprin's speech was way beyond the pale.
6. Weprin would have took much of Turner's support that he had last time if he was against gay marriage. get it through your head this race was about marriage
Like I said, so good to know that the election turned on something important.
If this is now the depth of issues debated in NYC, I am so glad I got out.
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(Koch is more popular with gays after endorsing Turner then he is with Orthodox Jews despite endorsing Turner)
