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Old 10-10-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: PA
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I find it pointless when Ron Paul wins or raises money or gains in polls he is ignored and they discredit the poll or the numbers.

Freedom has been replaced by puppets who tell you what they want you to hear.

Here i stand before you with people, YOUNG, OLD, MIDDLE AGED, BLACK AND WHITE demanding liberty. It appears the media will continue to not cover it unless it supports more government, more regulation and more socialism.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I find it pointless when Ron Paul wins or raises money or gains in polls he is ignored and they discredit the poll or the numbers.

Freedom has been replaced by puppets who tell you what they want you to hear.

Here i stand before you with people, YOUNG, OLD, MIDDLE AGED, BLACK AND WHITE demanding liberty. It appears the media will continue to not cover it unless it supports more government, more regulation and more socialism.
Exactly. Tons of people knew Cain won the Florida straw poll, hardly anyone knows Ron Paul won the California straw poll.

You have to fight for your freedoms everyday.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I find it pointless when Ron Paul wins or raises money or gains in polls he is ignored and they discredit the poll or the numbers.

Freedom has been replaced by puppets who tell you what they want you to hear.

Here i stand before you with people, YOUNG, OLD, MIDDLE AGED, BLACK AND WHITE demanding liberty. It appears the media will continue to not cover it unless it supports more government, more regulation and more socialism.
The revolution will not be televised. But change will come whether or not the MSM covers it or not.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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They seem to believe that the awareness of government being in bed with business, the abuse of power, and ignoring the Constitution will go away if Ron Paul is swept under the rug.

I forgot who it was, but someone on one of the major news network pointed out(to another republican on the show) that Ron Paul not winning the GOP means that the supporters will split the vote regardless away from someone else, if they were to win the GOP, therefore, the other GOP candidates wouldn't win no matter what. This of course, makes him very upset, but in all fairness, he was a neoconservative, and neoconservatives are hardly conservative.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: SC
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I find it pointless when Ron Paul wins or raises money or gains in polls he is ignored and they discredit the poll or the numbers.

Freedom has been replaced by puppets who tell you what they want you to hear.

Here i stand before you with people, YOUNG, OLD, MIDDLE AGED, BLACK AND WHITE demanding liberty. It appears the media will continue to not cover it unless it supports more government, more regulation and more socialism.
That isn't happening when Ron Paul WINS by a LONG SHOT, a major poll, because the MSM would lose what remaining credibility they have if they did that. Although there certainly are no front page headlines about it like there would be if any of the status quo candidates won but I don't think Ron Paul needs that kind of attention from the MSM. He get's the headlines from the alternative media and more people read that than MSM anyway according to the latest statistics.

People are DISGUSTED with what is going on in the country and I think they are catching on and beginning to be a better judge of candidates than they were in the past since it is so much more IMPORTANT this time with our country in so much mess. Even on City-Data people are noticing it.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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I find it pointless when Ron Paul wins or raises money or gains in polls he is ignored and they discredit the poll or the numbers.

Freedom has been replaced by puppets who tell you what they want you to hear.

Here i stand before you with people, YOUNG, OLD, MIDDLE AGED, BLACK AND WHITE demanding liberty. It appears the media will continue to not cover it unless it supports more government, more regulation and more socialism.
I don't know. It's like what a lot of people have been saying..there's absolutely no way the PTB will allow Paul to win the presidency, let alone the Republican nomination..

The two party system is a sham. Both parties are run by corporatists. They leave us arguing over social issues, while they steal us blind and erode our civil liberties...
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: PA
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That isn't happening when Ron Paul WINS by a LONG SHOT, a major poll, because the MSM would lose what remaining credibility they have if they did that. Although there certainly are no front page headlines about it like there would be if any of the status quo candidates won but I don't think Ron Paul needs that kind of attention from the MSM. He get's the headlines from the alternative media and more people read that than MSM anyway according to the latest statistics.

People are DISGUSTED with what is going on in the country and I think they are catching on and beginning to be a better judge of candidates than they were in the past since it is so much more IMPORTANT this time with our country in so much mess. Even on City-Data people are noticing it.

Emily
We are both ron paul supporters so I know we are on the same side but the reality is people are stupid. Most of the REPUBLICANS are to busy listening to Hannity, Rush and Levin and VOTE in the primary. They are so brainwashed on the war on terror for 10 years now they will vote in anyone as long as israel is supported (See Cain) recent surge. They "talk" about the constitution but don't really want to follow it, while they agree with alot of what Ron Paul says they can't vote on princple. The support Ron Paul is getting is from independent and republicans who are fed up with what the party has been doing. Most of us actually have our own thoughts, think logically and understand liberty. Ron Paul supporters are republicans, independants and some are liberals but this is a republican primary. Not enough of the current republicans have conviction to vote on princple and records they like to just hear someone bash the president and they will vote for them. These people who vote for Romeny and or Perry are just plain stubborn and thick headed lost in the entertainment of Rush Limbaugh and want to FEEL we are better then you talk against Obama. America is dumb and has been for a long time while we see hope with the few of us struggling to save the republic most haven't even noticed. Most dont care as long as they get their TV, their daily dose of drama, gossip and jersey shore they are willing to just let it all slip away.
Ron Paul's campaign and we need a new way to get the voter TV is good for commericals but I think its time Ron Paul on national TV start putting a spin on why they dont to hear a message of freedom. He needs to stop answering their questions and start talking about the his record and his predictions. Make the media do what they love to do best and that is entertainment start slamming the republicans on that stage who voted for or supported the bailouts. The Media does not care about liberty, or ideas they care about soundbites give them a new soundbite of the consistant Ron Paul. A Ron Paul on a mission to destory these so called conservatives on that stage. When a voter sees the difference and Ron Paul starts to POINT IT OUT and calls out the neocons on that stage Ron Paul will be all over that debate. This is a debate Ron Paul should call them all out on the support of the ballouts. Dont be just different on foreign policy show how your different on economics! If they want someone STRONG give them a strong conviction of ideas and PUT down the ideas of this idiots on that stage.

Make the campaign about trust not just beating Obama if you notice that has been what they do they want Republicans to ban together for neocon agendas. First you must destroy the party to rebuild this party and its starts when the neocons are off that stage and called out DIRECTLY BY PAUL!
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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So what are you Paul people going to do if someone else gets the nomination? Hold your nose and vote R, sit out the election, or put real effort into supporting a third party? I said "if" but I really mean "when." There's no way that the R establishment is going to let Paul get the nomination.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: PA
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So what are you Paul people going to do if someone else gets the nomination? Hold your nose and vote R, sit out the election, or put real effort into supporting a third party? I said "if" but I really mean "when." There's no way that the R establishment is going to let Paul get the nomination.

Every Paul supporter will do something DIFFERENT as per its their CHOICE and their personal VOTE! I guess the nominee of the Republicans and FOX NEWS and talking heads should think of that before they continue this media blackout and running this circus.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So what are you Paul people going to do if someone else gets the nomination? Hold your nose and vote R, sit out the election, or put real effort into supporting a third party? I said "if" but I really mean "when." There's no way that the R establishment is going to let Paul get the nomination.
It would be interesting to have them tell us what they did in 2008. Many of them that we are seeing here supported Paul in 2008 as well.

NIta
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