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Old 11-09-2011, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Analysis: What a Republican win means for VA - The Washington Post

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RICHMOND — Virginia appeared to have taken a sharp right turn Tuesday, as Republicans held a tenuous grip on the Senate and gained at least six seats in the House of Delegates.

If the results hold, Republicans will have complete control of state government for only the second time since the Civil War and, some say, a new mandate to push forward a strongly conservative agenda.
I'd say the GOP had a very, very good night in Virginnie.

I would advise them to concentrate on implementing fiscally conservative policy and stay away from social issues for the most part.

A warning for obama and the dems.

Virginia elections may be a warning sign for Obama - The Washington Post

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Tuesday’s legislative elections in Virginia appeared likely to add more evidence — as if national Democrats needed it — that the terrain of the political map will be significantly more rugged for President Obama next year.

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Old 11-09-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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A sharp right turn? Of the decided state races held yesterday, Republicans won 10 and Democrats won 19. Rather than a sharp turn, I'd say it's Virginia settling back down to being largely conservative. It's the pockets of large population (NOVA, Richmond, Tidewater area) that contain more Democrats, and Democrats overall in Virginia tend to be moderate or conservative. NOVA has Democrats who open advance progressivism and more liberal views, and they won last night.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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LOL, I was at an artificial intelligence symposium last weekend in Arlington, shmoozing with some of the biggest names in the field, as well as local employers. NoVA is nowhere near as progressive as it once was. Even the academic folks were generally anti-Obama. It didn't help that one of my colleagues was insulted by someone from the UK who attended the symposium.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:19 AM
 
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A sharp right turn? Of the decided state races held yesterday, Republicans won 10 and Democrats won 19. Rather than a sharp turn, I'd say it's Virginia settling back down to being largely conservative. It's the pockets of large population (NOVA, Richmond, Tidewater area) that contain more Democrats, and Democrats overall in Virginia tend to be moderate or conservative. NOVA has Democrats who open advance progressivism and more liberal views, and they won last night.
Huh?

The GOP PICKED UP at least 6 seats in the House and what looks like 2 in the Senate, which would give them control of the legislature (that hasn't happened since the civil war) and the top 3 offices of the state house.

Based on the numbers and analysis, you couldn't be more wrong.

We all know NoVa is a haven for liberals, but that doesn't discount the fact the GOP will CONTROL the whole shebang if the recount holds.

I suggest you read the two articles/analysis to enlighten you of the reality of the situation.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:23 AM
 
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LOL, I was at an artificial intelligence symposium last weekend in Arlington, shmoozing with some of the biggest names in the field, as well as local employers. NoVA is nowhere near as progressive as it once was. Even the academic folks were generally anti-Obama. It didn't help that one of my colleagues was insulted by someone from the UK who attended the symposium.
Oh, you were at one symposium and that gave you the whole story of NoVA politics? I've lived in NoVA for over 35 years and it's gradually become more progressive, and I see no reversal of that trend. Fairfax County is much less conservative than it used to be. Arlington and Alexandria remain as progressive as ever.

I know extremely liberal AI professionals in Arlington btw, so I suppose I could use miniscule anecdotes to support a position contrary to yours. And what does rubbing elbows with "the biggest names in the field" have to do with the overall politics of the region?
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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I know extremely liberal AI professionals in Arlington btw
Yeah, a common debate tactic is to make up anecdotal stories because you don't like the direction mine went.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:35 AM
 
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Yeah, a common debate tactic is to make up anecdotal stories because you don't like the way mine went.
Make up? NRL.

And you admit yours was anecdotal and irrelevant to the facts of the matter. Other than speaking to some people at a meeting, what evidence do you have of your claim for a political shift in NoVA?
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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Make up? NRL.

And you admit yours was anecdotal and irrelevant to the facts of the matter. Other than speaking to some people at a meeting, what evidence do you have of your claim for a political shift in NoVA?
The election(s)? The numbers AND professional analysis don't back up your opinion.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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Make up? NRL.

And you admit yours was anecdotal and irrelevant to the facts of the matter. Other than speaking to some people at a meeting, what evidence do you have of your claim for a political shift in NoVA?
It's not just at the symposium, it was when we were at social gatherings following the plenary talks near the conference hotel and spoke with locals. Maybe it's a different part of Arlington that is more moderate/conservative, I dunno.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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The election(s)? The numbers AND professional analysis don't back up your opinion.
We're talking specifically about Northern Virginia as a subtopic, which, if you read the articles you posted, voted overwhelmingly Democratic (and incumbent) yesterday.

As for "opinion":

Virginia | 2011 Elections | washingtonpost.com

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"Northern Virginia voters largely stuck with Democratic incumbents Tuesday as Republicans waged a fierce battle to cement power in Richmond by taking control of the state Senate."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...W3M_story.html
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