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Old 11-11-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wutitiz
Gingrich derailed the 94 revolution by supporting the old bull republicans like Bud Shuster, and Bob Livingston, who saw it as their chance to do the pork deals they had watched Democrats do their whole careers. It was really Gingrich who set the stage for the disastrous R spending spree of 2000-2006 under Bush (even though he had left by then).

Then Gingrich supported one of the worst things Bush ever did, the Medicare Part D (prescription drug benefit). He derailed one limited-gov't revolution, I for one would not give him the opportunity to do it again.


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Mr. Chairman, I second that motion.

Seriously, Gingrich's position toward the poor...is ruthless, heartless, (check with his first 2 wives) and appalling!!
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Newt is very damaged goods. He is in this race for one reason, to increase his speaking fees, sell some more books, and possibly get a cushy appointment of some kind in the next administration. Newt has ever met an easy buck he didn't like.

Damaged how?

I thought we were not to get into personal lives of the candidates?

Or did that change after Obama?

No one had more skeletons and unknowns then Obama did and he got elected.

Newt is 1000% better then Obama any day.

And he has a ton of successes in his life, unlike the failure we have in the WH today.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:34 PM
 
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Damaged how?

I thought we were not to get into personal lives of the candidates?

Or did that change after Obama?

No one had more skeletons and unknowns then Obama did and he got elected.

Newt is 1000% better then Obama any day.

And he has a ton of successes in his life, unlike the failure we have in the WH today.


His personal life has been, to say the least, a disaster, but really there is so much more. He has many questionable situations when it comes to not only money and ethics, but also policy he set, much of which was far from 'conservative'...and yet he is going to be the Tea Party darling now? It's really hysterical...lol.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:37 PM
 
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What is Mittens' position on the personal mandate?

Do you know?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:05 PM
 
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What is Mittens' position on the personal mandate?

Do you know?

Guess who came up with the first healthcare mandate proposed...none other than Newt Gingrich. You really need to educate yourself if you are going to talk about this...lol
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:11 PM
 
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Guess who came up with the first healthcare mandate proposed...none other than Newt Gingrich. You really need to educate yourself if you are going to talk about this...lol
Newt has said he opposes it. Why can't Mittens say that, without tripping all over himself?

Do you think he still believes in it?

Do you believe in it?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:24 PM
 
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Newt has said he opposes it. Why can't Mittens say that, without tripping all over himself?

Do you think he still believes in it?

Do you believe in it?


Newt wrote it time and again, in almost every book he wrote:

In a June 2007 op-ed in the Des Moines Register, Gingrich wrote, "Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it." An "individual mandate," he added, should be applied "when the larger health-care system has been fundamentally changed." And in several of his many policy and politics-focused books, Gingrich offered much the same.
In 2008's "Real Change," he wrote, "Finally, we should insist that everyone above a certain level buy coverage (or, if they are opposed to insurance, post a bond). Meanwhile, we should provide tax credits or subsidize private insurance for the poor."
In 2005's "Winning the Future," he expanded on the idea in more detail: "You have the right to be part of the lowest-cost insurance pool and you have a responsibility to buy insurance. ... We need some significant changes to ensure that every American is insured, but we should make it clear that a 21st Century Intelligent System requires everyone to participate in the insurance system."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/0...-care-coverage


He can't deny it and if he takes it back...he is the biggest 'flip flopper' of all. Romney is not going to apologize for doing what his constituents wanted and even if he did, it would be used against him also. There is no point in it.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:26 PM
 
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Newt can change his mind about the individual mandate.

Romney still believes in it.

I don't care what Massachusetts wants.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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from his book,
To Save America: Stopping Obama's Secular-Socialist Machine
Newt Gingrich


Pointing out that much of the government’s vast bureaucracy is based on organizational models used since the 1800s, Gingrich calls for a “Replace Not Reform” policy to overhaul a wasteful, redundant, outmoded, creaking, dysfunctional system.
Among his chief targets: the Department of Education, Medicare and Medicaid, the Environmental Protection Agency​ and bankrupt mortgage giants Fannie Mae​ and Freddie Mac, which he would sell.
“All these are beyond hope of success. They cannot be tinkered with or renewed or reformed. They can only be abolished entirely and replaced with new ideas that work,” he says.
Gingrich Tells How to Stop Obama’s ‘Secular-Socialist Machine’ - HUMAN EVENTS
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:04 AM
 
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from his book,
To Save America: Stopping Obama's Secular-Socialist Machine
Newt Gingrich


Pointing out that much of the government’s vast bureaucracy is based on organizational models used since the 1800s, Gingrich calls for a “Replace Not Reform” policy to overhaul a wasteful, redundant, outmoded, creaking, dysfunctional system.
Among his chief targets: the Department of Education, Medicare and Medicaid, the Environmental Protection Agency​ and bankrupt mortgage giants Fannie Mae​ and Freddie Mac, which he would sell.
“All these are beyond hope of success. They cannot be tinkered with or renewed or reformed. They can only be abolished entirely and replaced with new ideas that work,” he says.
Gingrich Tells How to Stop Obama’s ‘Secular-Socialist Machine’ - HUMAN EVENTS
I'm down for that.

Mittens is completely unrepentent about the personal mandate.
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