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Old 12-30-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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The 1st amendment is there for a reason.
It is not there to pick and choose how it is enforced.


You don't have to agree with a position, but you cannot deny them their right to express themselves.
It is called freedom.
So now the take is - Ron Paul had the Constitutional right to write racist/offensive comments. Or is it that Ron Paul never wrote those things?

Paul supporters are in real spin mode now!
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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So now the take is - Ron Paul had the Constitutional right to write racist/offensive comments. Or is it that Ron Paul never wrote those things?
Yes.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Really? That is the best anyone has? Trying to paint Mr. Paul as a racist is just silly. Again, the exercising of libertarian principles totally negate/disallows for the exercise of racism. Now, can racism be harbored in a person's heart? Sure. No one can change a man's heart, but that man himself. So the next best thing is having a philosophical system that denies the ability of that man to act or enact racism. If Mr. Paul is a racist, his philosophical construct will not allow him to express it. Furthermore, it would force him to make sure that those to whom he harbors racist sentiments would be given freedom and liberty. It really is that easy.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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It this true?

» Shock Photos: Candidate Obama Appeared And Marched With New Black Panther Party in 2007 - Big Government


And this?

http://www.moonbattery.com/new_black...rack_obama.jpg
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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you compared black voters who voted for obama to stormfront whites. hard to take you seriously.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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you compared black voters who voted for obama to stormfront whites. hard to take you seriously.
I think her point is that associating crazy white bigots with Ron Paul is as silly as associating crazy black bigots with Barack Obama. It's bad journalism to associate some crazy supporters as representative of a candidate's views.

Somebody snapped a picture of a crazy bigot standing next to Ron Paul at a campaign event, which has been floated around the internet a bit. It's similar to the picture that KickAssArmyChick posted of Barack Obama with the Black Panthers.

I suppose that I can't speak for her, but I think that's the direction that she intended to go with her post.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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I think her point is that associating crazy white bigots with Ron Paul is as silly as associating crazy black bigots with Barack Obama. It's bad journalism to associate some crazy supporters as representative of a candidate's views.

Somebody snapped a picture of a crazy bigot standing next to Ron Paul at a campaign event, which has been floated around the internet a bit. It's similar to the picture that KickAssArmyChick posted of Barack Obama with the Black Panthers.

I suppose that I can't speak for her, but I think that's the direction that she intended to go with her post.
I think you are mostly correct, but with the difference being that:

1. The storm front member attended a Paul event
2. Obama attended the black panther event

Different when you are the one that seeks out the group and actively participate in their event, rather than the group seeing you out.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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you compared black voters who voted for obama to stormfront whites. hard to take you seriously.

You missed the point completely.


There is a HUGE double standard here.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I think her point is that associating crazy white bigots with Ron Paul is as silly as associating crazy black bigots with Barack Obama. It's bad journalism to associate some crazy supporters as representative of a candidate's views.

Somebody snapped a picture of a crazy bigot standing next to Ron Paul at a campaign event, which has been floated around the internet a bit. It's similar to the picture that KickAssArmyChick posted of Barack Obama with the Black Panthers.

I suppose that I can't speak for her, but I think that's the direction that she intended to go with her post.
Yes...that pretty much sums it all up.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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During a radio interview on Thursday, Paul grappled with a caller and admitted that he did, in fact, write a portion of the newsletters he has recently disavowed.
He didn't "disavow" the "newsletters" in the first place, for the simple reason that 99.9% of their contents were uncontroversial and don't need to be "disavowed."
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