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I am fed up w/ both Republicans & Democrats. Can't stand how both parties cater to the Ultra rich, & neither does a thing about illegal immigration & how much it's costing us, the environment, moving forward w/ scientific studies to create new environmentally friendly energy,cures for diseases, & JOBS. We blow all our money on WAR, while our own people suffer. Is there even HOPE to get someone in the WH that actually CARES about this country, its people and the environment? It's all about MONEY in this country now. Doesn't seem like things will get any better, as greed is highly contagious.
I am fed up w/ both Republicans & Democrats. Can't stand how both parties cater to the Ultra rich, & neither does a thing about illegal immigration & how much it's costing us, the environment, moving forward w/ scientific studies to create new environmentally friendly energy,cures for diseases, & JOBS. We blow all our money on WAR, while our own people suffer. Is there even HOPE to get someone in the WH that actually CARES about this country, its people and the environment? It's all about MONEY in this country now. Doesn't seem like things will get any better, as greed is highly contagious.
Since 1914 it has been ALL ABOUT MONEY in this country. It has just gotten worse and been magnified by the fact that now besides outright STEALING from us with all these bailouts and quantitative easing they have TAKEN OUR LIBERTIES with that EVIL so called "Patriot Act".
If you care you better start to do something about it. I've been emailing my representatives in Congress and giving them a piece of my mind along with solutions of course.
Today I suggested my Congressman sponsor a bill to Re-enstate the Glass-Steagall Act that USED to PREVENT Bankers from doing ANYTHING but what bankers are supposed to do. It also prevented banks from take-overs of other banks.
Under Clinton (I believe) this GOOD law was repealed and what followed were all the Ponzi schemes the Banksters created such as mortgage backed securities and consolidated debt obligations that didn't hae a prayer of paying off.
As you'll recall, the Federal Reserve, namely Hank Paulson had you and I pay for the banksters mistakes when the scheme didn't work out through TARP that Congress STUPIDLY went along with.... and then after that they continued to side with the banksters allowing Quantitative Easing and all the secret bailouts.
Third party candidates will do nothing but split the vote -- the most recent being Ross Perot. His running for president allowed Clinton to win with less than 50%.
Ross Perot wasn't on a third party platform, and he initially ran as an independent. An established third party could win, however, currently, you would need some extreme funding to break through the system, which puts anyone at an unfair advantage, immediately.
Recently, third parties have been focusing perennial candidates to get the message out, and they haven't tried to win much. You don't have much luck with establishing a party, by not building up your seats in state and federal elected offices. One step at a time.
I am fed up w/ both Republicans & Democrats. Can't stand how both parties cater to the Ultra rich, & neither does a thing about illegal immigration & how much it's costing us, the environment, moving forward w/ scientific studies to create new environmentally friendly energy,cures for diseases, & JOBS. We blow all our money on WAR, while our own people suffer. Is there even HOPE to get someone in the WH that actually CARES about this country, its people and the environment? It's all about MONEY in this country now. Doesn't seem like things will get any better, as greed is highly contagious.
I hear ya! Been disillusioned by both Democrat and Republicans parties for quite some time now, and I'm sick to death of trying to decide which one is the least of two evils on any given election. Why do we have to choose between evil and more evil?
One thing that can be done on the local level is to push HARD to get automatic run-offs instituted, starting at the local level and working up from there.
Right leaning independents who voted for Ross Perot in 1992 are blamed for putting Clinton in office. Clearly Clinton never would have won the election without Perot in the running and drawing more right leaning than left leaning votes. Left leaning independents who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 also felt the same sting. Al Gore was so close to winning and if they had just voted for Gore instead of Nader, then George W would have never been President. In both cases, the winner did not gain a majority of the American vote.
On the local level, if the Republican candidate gets 35% of the vote, the Democrat gets 36% of the vote and a right-leaning third party candidate gets the remaining 19% of the vote (with most of his votes coming from Conservatives.) In far too many cases, the Democrat would be declared the winner and the 19% who voted for the third party candidate would be ridiculed for their choice. But with an automatic run-off, you toss out the third party candidate (or whoever was not 1st or 2nd in votes) and call for a re-vote with only two choices -- whichever were first and second in votes received. End result: The voice of the majority is heard and the Republican probably wins. More importantly, the 19% who voted for a third party don't have to worry about handing victory to the party they dislike most. With that realization, many other people would realize that they can actually vote for any third party candidate they like without fear of being punished by the outcome of the election. Nobody can win an election without a majority vote, plain and simple.
The more this can be implemented the more it empowers Americans to vote their true conscience rather than voting for "the lesser of two evils." There are loads of other political parties around and automatic run-offs is the best formula for empowering them.
Last edited by godofthunder9010; 08-02-2011 at 01:23 AM..
Too many idiots on both sides vote straight party ticket. Thats why there will never be a third party President.
that is exactly why there could be a 3rd party candidate win. the party entrenched are always going to vote their party, but the entire mid-range is up for grabs and people are more AWARE than ever before in our history.
after this sad little debt ceiling raising episode (more proof of political capture) i think a 3rd party now has an even better chance of winning. if ron paul did not get the republican nomination, i would suggest that he runs for president as a 3rd party candidate and announce running with someone like brooksley born as the VP choice.
or even have his son run (if people think he is too old, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree) with brooksley or other choice.
We just need to REPLACE the GOP with a party that doesn't promote bigotry, racism, and divisiveness. This country does not benefit from their influence.
If the 3rd party doesnt work out should we then move to a 4th or a 5th party? all the time watering down the vote..
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Third party not necessary
