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I somewhat agree with you, but remember, several of the candidates that could have won or probably gotten the nomination decided not to run because the media were attacking from day 1. Then add, some of our best and brightest are just getting started. We couldn't nominate one of the withut the liberals or the Democrats taking us to task for nominating someone with no experience.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP head for the convention with no candidate having near enough votes to win on the first ballot.
They did not run for fear of the media. Fear of the media is automatic disqualification IMO. They stayed out because in spite of what the rank and file have been lead to believe, defeating Obama, an incumbent, was a huge task not likely to be accomplished. The guys running are all old horses for whom this is their last roundup or faces who need face recognition like Santorum. The Reps in the ivory towers know the best chances they will have are in 2016 with an open seat to win. They will spend the next few years cleaning out the Tea party influence that is killing them, mending fences with minorities and the less fortunate and trying to get the party back to the middle.
[i] doubt you were even alive in 1964, you certainly have no clue about the party at that time. It was anything but in disarray. Yes, our nominee got clobbered, but that isn't saying the party was falling apart. It certianly wasn't and what happened 4 years later? How many Democrats have led the Whitehouse since 1968 and how many Republicans? For a party that was falling apart, they sure re-built quickly!!!
The key is quality, not quantity. The GOP recovered from Goldwater's loss only to give us Dick Nixon...hardly a point of pride. The only Republican president with a high approval rating is Reagan, and he was an actor who gave an Oscar-worthy performance of a Commander in Chief. Both Bushes were unmitigated disasters for the country. The GOP made a deal with the devil when they aligned themselves with evangelicals and neo-cons. That's the internal struggle that's crippling them at present: You have to be bloodthirsty to appease the GOP base, and that's off-putting for moderates and Independents. Their extreme positions on women's issues will cost them dearly in November. If they would return to the true conservatism of Theodore Roosevelt they would find more favor with the general populace, but by today's standards Teddy would be considered a liberal. The GOP rebuilt quickly in '64 because they moved away from Goldwater's extremism (which he repented later in life) and adopted a far more moderate platform, something which they're unwilling to do today.
[i] doubt you were even alive in 1964, you certainly have no clue about the party at that time. It was anything but in disarray. Yes, our nominee got clobbered, but that isn't saying the party was falling apart. It certianly wasn't and what happened 4 years later? How many Democrats have led the Whitehouse since 1968 and how many Republicans? For a party that was falling apart, they sure re-built quickly!!!
It's easy to spin that idea the other way too. If Obama wins in November, then by 2016, Democrats will have controlled the executive branch for 16 of the last 24 years.
I believe if it keeps going like it is there could be a convention that will not have a candidate with the delegates to win. We could then see the convention pick someone not in the current list
Romney will eventually get to the 1144 delegates needed to win the nomination but he'll have basically made himself completely unelectable in the general election in the process.
The GOP has GOT to find and run a candidate that is serious about saving the American middle class, responsible spending, fixing banking, good morals, reasonable military influence and THAT will be a candidate that most Americans would choose
So far, they have hypocrites, Wall St clones, warmongers and big business -tax lowering trickle down types as candidates.... not a recipe for success
I somewhat agree with you, but remember, several of the candidates that could have won or probably gotten the nomination decided not to run because the media were attacking from day 1.
They didn't run because they were weak and they knew it.
Republican party is just having an identity crisis right at the moment. They'll get over it, given time. Probably not in this election cycle though.
Romney will lose and the base and their enablers in the right-wing entertainment industry will collectively decide it's because he and by extension the party wasn't conservative enough, as they did after 2008. There's no going back to a more moderate Republican party until a lot of people shuffle off this mortal coil, and even then it's not likely to happen.
They did not run for fear of the media. Fear of the media is automatic disqualification IMO. They stayed out because in spite of what the rank and file have been lead to believe, defeating Obama, an incumbent, was a huge task not likely to be accomplished. The guys running are all old horses for whom this is their last roundup or faces who need face recognition like Santorum. The Reps in the ivory towers know the best chances they will have are in 2016 with an open seat to win. They will spend the next few years cleaning out the Tea party influence that is killing them, mending fences with minorities and the less fortunate and trying to get the party back to the middle.
And in some cases, I happen to agree with you, let's say it is or was based on both issues: some, knowing it isn't easy to beat an incumbent and some because the media was on the attack before day one.
The key is quality, not quantity. The GOP recovered from Goldwater's loss only to give us Dick Nixon...hardly a point of pride. The only Republican president with a high approval rating is Reagan, and he was an actor who gave an Oscar-worthy performance of a Commander in Chief. Both Bushes were unmitigated disasters for the country. The GOP made a deal with the devil when they aligned themselves with evangelicals and neo-cons. That's the internal struggle that's crippling them at present: You have to be bloodthirsty to appease the GOP base, and that's off-putting for moderates and Independents. Their extreme positions on women's issues will cost them dearly in November. If they would return to the true conservatism of Theodore Roosevelt they would find more favor with the general populace, but by today's standards Teddy would be considered a liberal. The GOP rebuilt quickly in '64 because they moved away from Goldwater's extremism (which he repented later in life) and adopted a far more moderate platform, something which they're unwilling to do today.
and you know what, he wasn't a bad Pres by anymeans. You are righth about Goldwater moving to the left some as he aged. This does show, all of us, if we really examine our thoughts can change our minds, regardless of which direction. The sad thing, some people are not flexable... Let me add one thing, what do you mean about women's issues costing the GOP this Novemeber?
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