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What Ron Paul supporters want in Nevada and are fine with on a moral level, is for the rights of the 9% (the Ron Paul voters) to have the majority say.
All while talking about having the real values of Government that none of the other candidates have.
In Ron Paul World 9% > Romney's 51%
The delegate strategy is well-documented, and well-known amongst all GOP candidates. This is no secret voodoo magic going on here. The so-called caucus straw poll is just that, a straw poll (similar to the straw polls which regularly happened before the elections too). If it was meant to select the delegates directly, you bet that would have been the party rules. The conventions are held to select the delegates to make sure that only the committed and informed people get to have a say in the nomination process. It's been this way for DECADES - this didn't happen out of the blue just in '08 or '12.
If we just wanted a majority opinion, we should scrap the whole electoral college voting system, and do a nationwide popular vote. Do you prefer that? You won't. Why? Because no Republican will ever be president if that's the case. The caucus conventions are a microcosm of the electoral college process.
Besides, why can't other candidates follow the same delegate strategy?
The delegate strategy is well-documented, and well-known amongst all GOP candidates. This is no secret voodoo magic going on here. The so-called caucus straw poll is just that, a straw poll (similar to the straw polls which regularly happened before the elections too). If it was meant to select the delegates directly, you bet that would have been the party rules. The conventions are held to select the delegates to make sure that only the committed and informed people get to have a say in the nomination process. It's been this way for DECADES - this didn't happen out of the blue just in '08 or '12.
If we just wanted a majority opinion, we should scrap the whole electoral college voting system, and do a nationwide popular vote. Do you prefer that? You won't. Why? Because no Republican will ever be president if that's the case. The caucus conventions are a microcosm of the electoral college process.
Besides, why can't other candidates follow the same delegate strategy?
Ron Paul supporters need to drop the crap that they stand for higher values if they think it is fair that a guy who gets 9% of the vote gets most of the delegates. It is hypocritical.
The system is highly flawed and needs to be changed when a guy who finishes 4th out of 4 can get most of the delegates.
Ron Paul supporters need to drop the crap that they stand for higher values if they think it is fair that a guy who gets 9% of the vote gets most of the delegates. It is hypocritical.
The system is highly flawed and needs to be changed when a guy who finishes 4th out of 4 can get most of the delegates.
Nice deflection, but let me try it again.
Why can't other candidates follow the same delegate strategy?
Seems like you know even less about a brokered convention. Delegates won't matter if it gets there, and your also ran isn't on their radar. Jindel, Christie, Jeb, but your guy, pleaze.
Brokered or contested convention will not help Paul a bit, you are right. It will go to a candidate that isn't in the running right now, like you say. I think some need to understand more and pay better attention to the process. Certainly if the number 1 guy doesn't get the nomination it would be number 2, like almost happened in 1976. The 3rd and 4th would stand no chance.
It looks like the possibility of no one getting enough delegates unless somebody drops out... I think the GOP wants a brokered convention... In which case Ron Paul will have final say and will name Rand Paul the nominee...
Oh pleaze, Paul's support is 10%, plus or minus, now and will be the same during the convention. If people were loving him they'd be voting for him.
If it ain't mittens, it will be Christie or someone else (not pain). I think Christie because they keep fat boy rested this way...
Why can't other candidates follow the same delegate strategy?
They can and they now are.
That doesn't change the fact that the system is highly flawed AND that Ron Paul supporters have forfeited the higher ground that they claimed they owend.You can't claim moral superiority if the premise of your campaign is to subvert the will of the people (4th out of 4 in the popular vote).
That doesn't change the fact that the system is highly flawed AND that Ron Paul supporters have forfeited the higher ground that they claimed they owend.You can't claim moral superiority if the premise of your campaign is to subvert the will of the people (4th out of 4 in the popular vote).
Exactly how is using the existing system to your best advantage (while violating no laws, policies, or established methodologies) equivalent with "forfeiting the higher ground"?
The will of the people is in no way bound to the will of either Republicans or Democrats. Both parties would have to significantly improve to work their way up to the level of bad.
As an aside, bold red type does nothing to strengthen your claims. It does however do a fine job of illustrating your desperation while highlighting your inability to utilize the spell check feature.
Exactly how is using the existing system to your best advantage (while violating no laws, policies, or established methodologies) equivalent with "forfeiting the higher ground"?
The will of the people is in no way bound to the will of either Republicans or Democrats. Both parties would have to significantly improve to work their way up to the level of bad.
As an aside, bold red type does nothing to strengthen your claims. It does however do a fine job of illustrating your desperation while highlighting your inability to utilize the spell check feature.
I made it red, because he did.
Explain, how Ron Paul's strategy is not to subvert the will of the voters by having 4th place get the most delegates.
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