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Governor Blank praised the bill, which was enacted by the legislature late Wednesday, as key to maintaining the state's fiscal health.
"Without this critical reform, Blankers would have seen significant tax increases, as well as layoffs to teachers, firefighters, and police," (blank) said in a statement.
"Skyrocketing pension costs have caused fiscal crises in many cities and counties around Blank, cutting into local governments' ability to deliver core services," Blank said in a statement. "That's why mayors and county executives — from both parties, and from every region in the state — came together to support Governor Blank's plan."
I guess the bipartisanship effort to improve a state's financial future, by both parties gave this away. It ain't Wisconsin. Think there are public unions involved in this situation? Yep.
This just makes the Wisconsin situation appear all the more like a Democratic-union cabal, cheap shot political fight, not a crusade for worker's rights, or m i d d l e families, (whine, sniff, sniff).
Just could not risk a little melodramatic tone in the last couple of sentences. Now, really?
Governor Blank praised the bill, which was enacted by the legislature late Wednesday, as key to maintaining the state's fiscal health.
"Without this critical reform, Blankers would have seen significant tax increases, as well as layoffs to teachers, firefighters, and police," (blank) said in a statement.
"Skyrocketing pension costs have caused fiscal crises in many cities and counties around Blank, cutting into local governments' ability to deliver core services," Blank said in a statement. "That's why mayors and county executives — from both parties, and from every region in the state — came together to support Governor Blank's plan."
I guess the bipartisanship effort to improve a state's financial future, by both parties gave this away. It ain't Wisconsin. Think there are public unions involved in this situation? Yep.
This just makes the Wisconsin situation appear all the more like a Democratic-union cabal, cheap shot political fight, not a crusade for worker's rights, or m i d d l e families, (whine, sniff, sniff).
Just could not risk a little melodramatic tone in the last couple of sentences. Now, really?
The teacher's in Wisconsin agreed 100% to the massive cuts to their pay and pensions as it was the right to do to help balance the budget. The outrage against Walker is because he is doing to bidding of his masters the Koch's to try and destroy them by taking away their collective bargaining rights.
The same hard right, middle class attacking legislation gained Ohio's new tea party governor one of the lowest approval ratings in the nation, not to mention was repealed by the people of Ohio by strong double digit numbers.
The teachers absolutely agreed to make the cuts, and Walker gutted their collective bargaining rights anyway--he refused to even meet with them about it. Were you under a rock during that whole thing?
The teachers absolutely agreed to make the cuts, and Walker gutted their collective bargaining rights anyway--he refused to even meet with them about it. Were you under a rock during that whole thing?
public unions should not exist in the 1st place. they dont like it, then get into a private union and do work in the private sector.
The teacher's in Wisconsin agreed 100% to the massive cuts to their pay and pensions as it was the right to do to help balance the budget. The outrage against Walker is because he is doing to bidding of his masters the Koch's to try and destroy them by taking away their collective bargaining rights.
The same hard right, middle class attacking legislation gained Ohio's new tea party governor one of the lowest approval ratings in the nation, not to mention was repealed by the people of Ohio by strong double digit numbers.
The Union owns the health insurance provider. They use collective bargaining to create a monopoly for the health insurance provider that they own. This monopoly is then used to charge the local school district/government/tax payers for insurance that is 30% above fair market value. Is this fair?
Don't you find it odd that the Union was so very willing to tell the teachers to suck it up and take a hit, but they screamed over not giving up their monopoly cash cow? Is the Union really looking out for the teachers? Not really. The fact that they overcharge individual school districts Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars a year for health insurance means less teachers, less teacher pay, more laid off teachers, less technology in the classroom, less new textbooks, more pay to play sports, more leaky roofs....but more union money so you justify it as a liberal...congratulations your priority is unions over education and fiscal sanity.
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I would like a liberal to justify to me why a public union should be able to own a monopoly on providing health insurance at the local level, where they over charge schools above fair market prices.
The Union owns the health insurance provider. They use collective bargaining to create a monopoly for the health insurance provider that they own. This monopoly is then used to charge the local school district/government/tax payers for insurance that is 30% above fair market value. Is this fair?
Don't you find it odd that the Union was so very willing to tell the teachers to suck it up and take a hit, but they screamed over not giving up their monopoly cash cow? Is the Union really looking out for the teachers? Not really. The fact that they overcharge individual school districts Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars a year for health insurance means less teachers, less teacher pay, more laid off teachers, less technology in the classroom, less new textbooks, more pay to play sports, more leaky roofs....but more union money so you justify it as a liberal...congratulations your priority is unions over education and fiscal sanity.
You've got the right wing propaganda down pat, fox must be proud Otherwise the teachers union doesn't own some kind of monopoly that is charging taxpayers some exorbitant fees. They are not making 6 figure salaries right out of grad school or have rolls royce/Dick Cheney healthcare plans that will go as far as turning you into a robot to keep you alive. The teachers of Wisconsin make about 27k a year to start, after years of fighting and crawling their way up the ladder, they can make it to national average wages at best.
The teachers union's collective bargaining is their only say in negotiating the terms of their salaries and benefits. What walker and the other far right goons want to do is destroy them, force them into slave labor conditions for next to no pay or benefits, while giving their cronies dynamite government positions all paid for by the taxpayer (like Walker did giving one of his major campaign donor's sons a high paying taxpayer funded job he was nowhere near qualified for.)
You know these are not far-right, looney-bin news sources I continue to stumble across. The one's that show lop-sided blue states, pure red states, and partisan effort states, all doing the same thing. Seriously reforming pension and health benefit programs. No, the sources are financial new sources like Bloomberg, CNBC, and more general news sources like Newsweek and CNN. Seems obvious to me the Wisconsin unions stand alone in their indignity.
It is about the math, not politics. Though, I know it serves the Democratic party and public union's interest to portray Walker and Republican's in general, as the boogie man in this. It makes for a nice diversion away from the real problem.
Let's keep the eye on the big picture; municipalities and states are completely unable to meet the promises that were made. The Federal government is not far behind. Postal Service, Medicare, failure to fully exploit our natural resources, the burden of our foreign mis-adventures.....
You've got the right wing propaganda down pat, fox must be proud Otherwise the teachers union doesn't own some kind of monopoly that is charging taxpayers some exorbitant fees. They are not making 6 figure salaries right out of grad school or have rolls royce/Dick Cheney healthcare plans that will go as far as turning you into a robot to keep you alive. The teachers of Wisconsin make about 27k a year to start, after years of fighting and crawling their way up the ladder, they can make it to national average wages at best.
The teachers union's collective bargaining is their only say in negotiating the terms of their salaries and benefits. What walker and the other far right goons want to do is destroy them, force them into slave labor conditions for next to no pay or benefits, while giving their cronies dynamite government positions all paid for by the taxpayer (like Walker did giving one of his major campaign donor's sons a high paying taxpayer funded job he was nowhere near qualified for.)
Please at least read what I write.
I am a teacher. I have worked on this personally, I know it first hand.
Many teacher's unions own their own health insurance provider. Wisconsin's biggest teacher's union, the WEA, owns the WEA Trust. The WEA Trust is a health insurance provider.
Collective bargaining puts many school districts in a position where they are limited to buying health insurance through the Union owned provider and nothing else. This is what is known as a monopoly.
You obviously don't care to have a discussion as you point out teacher's salaries aren't high - if you had bothered to read what I wrote I clearly pointed out that the Union is keeping this for themselves and not to the teachers. Much of this money goes to campaign donations.
Now that Walker has eliminated the WEA Trust monopoly, schools when working on a new contract have been able to purchase the same coverage from WEA Trust for hundreds of thousands of dollars less per year.
Tell me how the WEA Trust can just offer the same coverage and drop costs 30% over night.
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I love it when people make **** up.
Otherwise the teachers union doesn't own some kind of monopoly that is charging taxpayers some exorbitant fees. They are not making 6 figure salaries right out of grad school or have rolls royce/Dick Cheney healthcare plans that will go as far as turning you into a robot to keep you alive. The teachers of Wisconsin make about 27k a year to start, after years of fighting and crawling their way up the ladder, they can make it to national average wages at best. 
