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I want you to prove this, you continue to say this, but yet their are only 300,000 ish union workers, what about the other 2.2 million non0union workers, are they not as good as union workers?
Provide evidence he was kissing the ring of his master.....
A simple google search will do that Also this woman, a right wing billionaire (that also paid no taxes under Walker's agenda) donated $510,000 the biggest single donation in the history of Wisconsin politics
Not only that, this damning video that was released shows Walker blatantly lying under oath. There should be some serious ethics violation charges placed against him.
It's amazing the lefties on here will not answer that.....more left the unions in about a year....Why is that?
I'm sure some leftist can answer that.......
There will be no logical or coherent answers from the left. Just a quick glance through this thread proves all they do well is pull crap out of their ... . It's amusing to watch. One would think being so consistently wrong would have a stifling effect, but all it does is encourage them to get more bizarre and absurd.
Despite what happens tomorrow, I do not think public employee unions are endangered. But they are going to have to recognize a few facts of life beginning with the people that pay their salaries and benefits are hurting. Most of them do not even have a pension much less being asked to contribute a mere 7% to a pension. Same with health care. FREE health care? Who in the hell works in the real world- even in a union gig- and gets FREE health plans? With state and local budgets in the shape they are in, we simply cannot afford lavish pay and benefits that are way out of line with the private sector who, after all, pays the taxes that pay for public employees. I am sorry but Janitors that make $10 an hour in the private sector and have virtually no benefits should not be getting $23 an hour plus free healthcare and a free pension just because they work in a public building.
This is a common misconception and propaganda spread by the right that all unions are just greedy thugs making 6 figure salaries with world class pensions which is completely false.
The teachers in Wisconsin make about 28K a year to start, and after fighting their way up the ladder, can make national average wages, at best.
It's also another lie being spread that the teachers unions just wanted more and more money and refused any cuts, completely false.
The teacher's union understood the state was in trouble and they needed to pitch in their fare share of the belt tightening to get things back in order. They didn't even fight it, they agreed 100% to Walker's massive cuts to their pay and pensions.
What the recall is all about is that Walker does not give a damn about the state or balancing the budget, he went up and beyond by attacking them to take away their collective bargaining rights in an attempt to completely destroy them.
Walker's only agenda is to "divide and conquer" the middle class to reign in his corporatist fascism.
Democrats on this thread, I want an honest answer.
Are you in favor of giving the Public Unions back their monopolies of selling health insurance to the school districts....even though this means the Public Union uses their monopoly to overcharge the school districts/tax payers/government ~30% above fair market value? Is it justifiable to you, because much of this money taken from schools finds its way to the Democratic Party come campaign donation time?
It's amazing the lefties on here will not answer that.....more left the unions in about a year....Why is that?
I'm sure some leftist can answer that.......
Well I will try. If the law virtually prevents the union from being able to represent you as an employee, why would you elect to remain a dues paying member? It would be illogical for you to do so.
This is a common misconception and propaganda spread by the right that all unions are just greedy thugs making 6 figure salaries with world class pensions which is completely false.
The teachers in Wisconsin make about 28K a year to start, and after fighting their way up the ladder, can make national average wages, at best.
It's also another lie being spread that the teachers unions just wanted more and more money and refused any cuts, completely false.
The teacher's union understood the state was in trouble and they needed to pitch in their fare share of the belt tightening to get things back in order. They didn't even fight it, they agreed 100% to Walker's massive cuts to their pay and pensions.
What the recall is all about is that Walker does not give a damn about the state or balancing the budget, he went up and beyond by attacking them to take away collective bargaining rights in an attempt to completely destroy them.
Walker's only agenda is to "divide and conquer" the middle class to reign in his corporatist fascism.
Do you work for the union publicity department? That was comical.
The Union was willing to have teachers pay more of their hard earned money, but refused to budge on collective bargaining, because that would mean the end of their monopoly on selling health insurance services to many schools.
The Union's position: Teachers can give up their pay, the Union refuses to give up its cash cow that overcharges school districts statewide tens of millions of dollars a year.
Newsflash: When the Union owns a health insurance provider that has a monopoly and overcharges the schools it has officially become a big greedy corporation.
Well I will try. If the law virtually prevents the union from being able to represent you as an employee, why would you elect to remain a dues paying member? It would be illogical for you to do so.
Let's look at it the other way.
-Why shouldn't teacher's not get to vote to determine if they will have a union or form a new union? (certify)
-Why shouldn't teachers be allowed to have these certification votes on private ballots? The only reason not to is to allow the Union to intimidate the teachers into voting "correctly".
-Why should the teacher's union owned health insurance provider get a monopoly that overcharges the government?
-Why should the union get to take money from your pay check automatically, when you have worked there for years and never even had a vote on whether or not you want a union?
A simple google search will do that Also this woman, a right wing billionaire (that also paid no taxes under Walker's agenda) donated $510,000 the biggest single donation in the history of Wisconsin politics
Not only that, this damning video that was released shows Walker blatantly lying under oath. There should be some serious ethics violation charges placed against him.
Still did not see any ring kissing? Are you going off topic here? I really looks like it...that or you're grasping at straws again.....
So, what about the other question I asked, or are you cherry picking what you can and cannot answer? It appears the latter...
Well I will try. If the law virtually prevents the union from being able to represent you as an employee, why would you elect to remain a dues paying member? It would be illogical for you to do so.
Only if you do not pay the union.
And they left willingly....not forced, I appreciate your answer, the union can still do things for the union member, just not force them to do things...
Wouldn't that pretty much be the same as Walker losing?
We'll get the seat back in the fall.
What will the Left say?
Winning! Victory!
I'm sure they will grasp whatever straw they have to claim the recall was somehow a success.
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Also this woman, a right wing billionaire (that also paid no taxes under Walker's agenda) donated $510,000 the biggest single donation in the history of Wisconsin politics
